Admin Rodney Posted November 24, 2004 Admin Share Posted November 24, 2004 Love those 360 turnarounds. Like you I don't care for the color I'd guess but what ya gonna do. I can't help but think yellow would work in this case a bit more than red/orange. Maybe even gold. Your Superheroes are cool regardless... so you've impressed me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypoissant Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Well he took a direction I don't particularly like, but I'm stuck with it till I can redo him after the project is done. Ah! The joy of doing commisionned work I think we can all go over the particulariries of what was imposed to you and still appreciate the mastery you've put into the model. Good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNGLAUBLICHUSA Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 Being a "mesh parasite" and always looking to find the perfect paradigm for a facial mesh...what are the chance of seeing a close up on the face mesh? Enquiring minds want ti know...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cronos Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 great work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted November 24, 2004 Author Share Posted November 24, 2004 Here is a 360 of the head mesh. I see several places I could cut down on the mesh without changing the shape. http://www.colins-loft.net/free/MajorInnovationHead.mov C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MATrickz Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 thats amazing!!! GREAT job, can't wait to see this guy bustin villans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyvern Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 I just thought of something... You could have told the client that he needs to wear a "cup" to protect him from the "bad guys". I've often wondered if super heros are vulnerable in that "area". They tend not to wear much protection, and you never see the villains take a cheap shot. They will, however, tie them to a machine that will laser them into a million pieces. I like this. Turned out very well indeed! Vernon "Not wearing a cup" Zehr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimblepix Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 Thanks for letting us in on this Colin. Just a reminder on these turnarounds: If you really want to see the 3d effect pop out, turn on loop, play it at double speed, and put a dark lense (one sun glass lense) over your right eye (the eye that the front rotation is moving toward). Old trick, and works beautifully with TV football games too. Dan (you can call me dan) RJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 Here he is in a pose.. Still putting the finishing touches on the rigging but its coming along well. Thanks for the idea with the 360s nimblepix... I'll have to try that. Man I can't wait to get this guy on my own and make him what I really want him to be. Thanks for all the input guys. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckbat Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Here he is in a pose.. Still putting the finishing touches on the rigging but its coming along well. --Colin Freeman, master of understatement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtaz Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Colin ... until the pose of the maxillary is perfect... excelent Peace Xtaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I guess shouldn't mention that I met John Byrne at his home many moons ago... Oh, yeah, I have an original drawing of the Thing he did for me for my birthday. Again, many moons ago. Loooong story. One day... Least I forget...egads! What a great model. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pia12254 Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Man......amazing..... Just seeing that pose makes me want to quit work so I can stay home and watch the cartoon... :-D Great work! And if you aren't happy with it now I can't wait to see it once you have put your own look to it! Keep it up... Admirer, D. Piatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all2c00l Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Well, im fairly new to this program and im learning the art of creating models. My jaw is on the floor! Fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnomike Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 A stunning piece of work Colin, great pose a very dynamic Marvel effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DArtZ Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Nice!!!!! Mike Fitz www.3dartz.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Colin, that is looking great. I love that pose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dworkin Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 i just started A.M not to long ago, an seeing what everyone is able to do with this program is indeed my drive to be at your guys lvl. the last shot of the model looks great. always a nice look when you ad the char on an angle an make it seem like it wants to leap off the page.. very nicely done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 8, 2004 Author Share Posted December 8, 2004 Here are a few more poses of him, Fixed the last pose to work better... and another pose... Thanks for all the kind words, C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazz Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Holy cow batman. I mean major innovation... Anyways, that is really cool. Like really really cool. Beyond the regular levels of coolness. Awesome. Great job! -Robert Lazzarini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTalbotski Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Excellent work, Colin. The modeling, the rigging, the pose. Great! IMHO, the only thing that could be improved upon would be the lighting. Right now my eye focuses on his well-lit foot more than any other area. I would like to see more of the edge lighting on the rest of the figure, too. Thanks for posting your progress. It's very motivating. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamagica Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 My gosh..one of these pics should be in an updated version of the Art of Animation Master...This shows how much you can really push the limits in A:M...that's almost Pixar Quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 One more, started playing. Now this was fun! That scale armor is hair by the way I know the lighting is iffy.. but I'll get around to fixing it. I'm thinking of playing with Yves sky rig.. but This one took a while to get to render.. something with hair and large files with shadow maps. Thanks for all the kind words, There like gas in my engine C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypoissant Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 OMG Colin, This is too good. So good it hurts. I don't know how you did that lighting / material on the guy but it is amazing. Wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 wow! Thanks Yves! coming from you thats very high praise indeed! Which material are you referring to? I'll be glad to clue you in. The lighting is just common backlighting, and shadow maps cranked up.. Raytracing looks better, but I'm not ready to commit to a long render yet. Thanks again! That made my day. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted December 9, 2004 Admin Share Posted December 9, 2004 I think this one in particular captures Alex Ross's style. (Sorry to repost/relink) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypoissant Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Yes, right. That's the one. Did you post process in photoshop to get that sort of highlights and gradients on the blue suit like you did for your first post of him or is this done with gradient materials or something? The fingers and the hands are stunning. And very nice use of colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 9, 2004 Author Share Posted December 9, 2004 Thanks guys, Yep Yves, That one was post processed. I did get something close to it in AM.. but there was a catch.. No color decals with Toon shading... at least not over a gradient surface. So no color in the gloves. but its doable with toon shading if you can loose the color decals. You could probably right a material to do the same thing. Its very similar to what I've seen some materials doing.. in that you can take the out put of a specific part of the image and use it to modify the same part. Gradients, inverted, and composited over with a difference effect, shift the hue 180, and composite that over again with another filter (depends on the desired look).. Your skin shader is part of the way there I believe.. if you could add gradients to the inputs.. It would be there I think. Or the ability to add gradients to specific parts of a surface.. (diffuse, spec, ambient, reflection, etc) Thanks again guys. I've got big plans for this guy. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenar Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Colin: Brutally honest? Okay.... (stares at it for several minutes....) Wait, I'll find something..... (stares for several more minutes...) Damn...hold on.... (gets a gallon of eyedrops...) Er, well...the fingernail outlines look a little odd? Maybe? (God, that's weak...) (mutters and paces...) Oh, forget it. Best. A:M Picture. Ever. There. Happy now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Hi! It's a very beautiful model and you putted it in good poses! Nice work! I would like to see this model in an animation! Cheers.. Sharky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Keates Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Wow, I saw this character a few pages back and was impressed. Now he looks even better! I love the real/unreal use of lighting. It is creative but believable. The only crit that I can think of is that there could perhaps be some gloomy shadow under the arms - particularly his left forarm. Other than that it is stunning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpiazzo Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 From a complete newbie - who is absolute awe! IMHO the forearms seem a bit long. JP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpiazzo Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 and as a complete newbie - I responded to the 1st page of the thread... SORRY - the arms look fine! JP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Ok here is my favorite to date. The costume is actually starting to grow on me. Hash, what can I say, You make work fun. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Forgot to post that I'm not sure about the mouth.. I'm definately going to give this one a snarl or something. And don't forget the angry eyes! Anyone know when the deadline for the Hero contest is? C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypoissant Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Excellent muscles definition and deformation. And there is a lot of attention to lighting too. The only thing that bothers me a little is he look like he's got a belly. I think it might be because the plexus and the front torax region decends too low but I'm not sure. BTW, that would be an excellent pose to output in stereo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 Yves, you're right about the stomach of course. Thanks.. I totally overlooked that.. but its and easy fix..Still putting smartskin on stuff. I was thinking the same thing about stereo. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwarsguy Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 I believe the deadline's December 31st... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 Thanks Starwars guy. More than enough time C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Oooo! Oooo! I got a crit!!! *Holds it up like the golden ticket* On the image where you're looking up his nose, his nostrils look a little thick at the base. Of course it could be the light/angle/his genetic makeup....but I doubt it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 Here's a fix to the last post. Fixed his ribs as much as possible and gave hime some attitude. Still working on the attitude. Thanks for the crits.. keep them coming. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnomike Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Great pose, looking better all the time. One suggestion, I think he may look better with one hand open rather than both clenched. I think it would work best on the trailing hand. Like he's going to punch then grab, or grab and punch if front is unclenched. Looks great though. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 The righteous anger is definately showing now. I agree with the hand thing, but because of the anger I think it should be the back hand that stays fisted. It shows alot more emotion with the back fisted in my opinion. By the way, it looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypoissant Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 You've got the expression right on. And the stomach is good too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3DArtZ Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 First off.... this is great! Excellent work, no doubt about it. My feeling on the pose is that the hero is about to totally punch something or someone out. If that's the case, I think that the shoulder of the punching fist, or the fist that is getting wound up behind him....his right fist...Okay... That shoulder should be scrunched up closer to the neck.... I can't tell from that angle but it looks like it's more in a nuetral position. I might be wrong? Excellent stuff! Mike Fitz www.3dartz.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 12, 2004 Author Share Posted December 12, 2004 Here's some more.. not sure about the power punch. He'll have some sort of Power.. not sure about the binary code... I do like the glow on him though. I realized I'd put the teeth on him with no specular hilite.. I knew something bugged me about them. I'm gonna keep both fist. I like the pose and I'll admit I tried it with the front hand open, but it wasn't as good, I thought. Mike, That shoulder is up and back actually. The extreme camera angle makes it hard to see, but He's already dislocating in a few spots.. I should post a side shot to show the extreme nature of this pose. Its actually a funny idea. We should take old comics and match the poses. Then show how silly the heros look from different views in the same pose. Anyway.. Here is the fixed pose. Thanks for all the input guys. Its really helped alot. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Forwood Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Wow! That punch is going to do some damage. Is that a sprite emitter,Colin, or did you do it in post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 It works as it is. But you wouldn't just open the forward fist. You would need to rotate his wrist up and vary his finger arches. Also the angle of his forearm is wrong for this. Try punching yourself.....that doesn't sound right .....punch the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted December 12, 2004 Author Share Posted December 12, 2004 Ken you may be right about the forarm... but I think he's leading the punch of the back arm.. Like a Major league pitcher. I may have to drop the elbow some. But, like the dynamics of the way he fills the screen here. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted December 12, 2004 Admin Share Posted December 12, 2004 Colin, I've been looking at your pose... studying... experimenting. I broke out the markers... I tested on Dex and Shaggy characters... One thing for certain... dynamic (superhero) posing isn't easy to do. The reason I keep looking at it with a confused eye is that the energy of the punch doesn't seem to be flowing correctly. I think this may be one of the cases where the rule of right arm back/right leg forward might give way for the sake of setting up for the big power punch. Look at it this way. A lot of comic book shots show the hero 'after' the punch with what they hit in a reaction pose. There isn't an impact. That is created in the mind of the reader. In the case of your hero he is preparing to punch. If you use your pitcher example(and he's right handed) both right arm and right leg start at the back with the character left side, left leg and left arm facing the batter. As he begins his pitch the right arm arcs up and forward and his leg follows... Where the right leg moves to the forward position would be 'after' the punch as he pushes his fist and following arc of energy 'through' the target. By stepping forward with the punch more energy flows into to the punch from the motion of his body. This is hard stuff! I'm off to check out the poses by making a fool out of myself flailing at the air. Sure glad no one is around to see me. The pose looks awesome as it is... just something not quite right. The fact that you are having to fake parts of it is hinting at something. If you approach it from the animating point of view with an eye for where his pose will be when his punch goes through the target that might reveal some interesting things. -Rodney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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