agep Posted January 8, 2006 Posted January 8, 2006 Right before christmas I started this fun but challenging project of modelling the car from the norwegian puppet film "Pinchcliffe Grand Prix". The car "Il Tempo Gigante" is one of the coolest car I know (besides McLaren ), and it is actually been built an fullsize superfast version of this beast. At this point I'm finish with the modelling but do have a lot of texturing to do. Its late now so I'm going to bed, but tomorrow I'll try to upload some references of the car, and some wires of my model. Comments and crits are highly appreciated Regards Stian [attachmentid=13041] Quote
tanassi Posted January 8, 2006 Posted January 8, 2006 Hi Stian, very cool car... "Il Tempo Gigante", in italian means "the giant time" fine GI render effect, how do you obtain it? a light dome? bye... Vincenzo Quote
3DArtZ Posted January 8, 2006 Posted January 8, 2006 It's BEAUTIFUL!!!! Mike Fitz www.3dartz.com Quote
Dhar Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Impressive splinesmanship I remember the boat you did and now the car, do I sense an airplane in the future? Great job, as always. Quote
Eric2575 Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Stian, I always feel like crying when I see your work. Here I am in the corner of my room playing with my Romper Room building blocks while you are finishing the Taj Mahal. There is absolutely nothing I could criticize about your model, perfection from what I can see. Awesome job. All right, you've done it now Stian - I'm gonna lock myself in a closet and finish the Saleen if it kills me Wireframe please Eric Quote
R Reynolds Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Excellent work. Are you using bump maps for the front tire treads? Quote
steve392 Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Terific looking car and graet lighting ,nice work Quote
oakchas Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Stian, Looks a bit like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang! I love it... EXCELLENT MODELLING, yet again... Did I mention I love it? It looks even better (in a different way) than the McClaren... Look forward to seeing more! Quote
Paul Forwood Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Pure class, Stian! Absolutely gorgeous! I had to look really hard to find anything to criticize, it's just so well done, but there is a seam on the flexi-pipes at the back, like a misaligned map. Is that modelled or mapped? Very cool lighting! Quote
NancyGormezano Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 fabulous! - what a great looking car - what a great job! Quote
DarkLimit Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 thats breathtaking..........love the details and the overall model.......so inspiring........ Quote
DanCBradbury Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 awesome model agep. so much detail fine GI render effect, how do you obtain it? a light dome? there's no gi, that look was done with a z-buffered skydome. By the way how many lights did you use in your choreography agep? I always feel like crying when I see your work. Here I am in the corner of my room playing with my Romper Room building blocks while you are finishing the Taj Mahal. Your saleen is a damn fine piece of work. it could compare to this one dont belittle yourself when you make good stuff too. Quote
MattWBradbury Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 fine GI render effect, how do you obtain it? a light dome? Most likely a light dome. The only thing I would cratique about the renderings is the shadows. Make sure to have muti-pass on (I like 4x4) and the lights have 2 ray casts with 100% darkness (Z-buffer shadows don't really decrease the render time with a skydome) and make sure that the car has all ambience set to 0. Yves's 25 light right seems to be good enough for the skydome, though the hight of the car could have causes those grainy shadows. Can solve that by using a skydome rig with more lights. Here's some examples from a thread talking about the effect. Very nice car. Did you use bump or normal maps on the pipes on the back? Quote
Slipin Lizard Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 I can't continue without a clear conscience so I have to fess up. Stian asked me over to his house this weekend. We spent a lot time building this car from a kit he bought at the modeling store, and then worked our butts of to powder-coat it to get that white render look... if you look carefully you can spot some of the drips... Stian, it has to end... the trip to the boat show (all that photoshop to get the background out), the toy cars I got for my kids and put on our new wood floor (he made me refinish a part of my flooring so that he could show a new "render"), the digital cameras... no more... Yes your work is great, yes its depressing, please post something crappy for a change so we can all feel better... oh, and by the way, I just noticed after all this time the NASCAR model you made me has your website "sponsor decal" on it. That was great, I really got a kick out of that. Keep up the good work! Cal Quote
agep Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 Thanks for your comment, I appreciate them very much Are you using bump maps for the front tire treads? Yes (patch decals) I had to look really hard to find anything to criticize, it's just so well done, but there is a seam on the flexi-pipes at the back, like a misaligned map. Is that modelled or mapped?I used an simple bumpmap for the tubes (patch decals), The seam is now fixed, it was just some rotate image issue. Most likely a light dome. The only thing I would cratique about the renderings is the shadows. Make sure to have muti-pass on (I like 4x4) and the lights have 2 ray casts with 100% darkness (Z-buffer shadows don't really decrease the render time with a skydome) and make sure that the car has all ambience set to 0. Yves's 25 light right seems to be good enough for the skydome, though the hight of the car could have causes those grainy shadows. Can solve that by using a skydome rig with more lights. Here's some examples from a thread talking about the effect. Very nice car. Did you use bump or normal maps on the pipes on the back? Im using the 25light setup with an dome. 36 passes, and 100% darkness. Somehow I've forgotten to set the rays to 2. The 1280x768 render took 5hr to render, which is a bit much, but since I have an extra comuter I dont mind the extra rendertime. Regards Stian Quote
noewjook Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 It is perfect ! Can't wait to see it with color and textures. Quote
agep Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 Thanks btw, here is a shaded wireframe render. Total patch count: 22860 [attachmentid=13060] Quote
williamgaylord Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 I want one of those! That's the kind of car I'd like to drive! Do you ever sleep, Stian? I'm amazed at how you seem to crank out these amazingly detailed models seemingly so quickly. Nice work! Bill Gaylord Quote
DanCBradbury Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 In the yves skydome i use for my retro renderings, i do a 4x4 pass render with 2 raycast lights, and it normaly takes about 3 hours to render a 960x960 image. Do you realy need 36 passes? Anyway, any raycast above 1 will automatically disrupt the banding you got. Quote
agep Posted January 9, 2006 Author Posted January 9, 2006 normaly takes about 3 hours to render a 960x960 image. Do you realy need 36 passes? Anyway, any raycast above 1 will automatically disrupt the banding you got. If 2 rays removes the banding I guess I dont need 36 passes. But with just 1 ray there was an noticeable difference in the banding between 16 and 36 passes. Im going to update the setup Quote
MMZ_TimeLord Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Excellent model Stian! (/me falls over) The detail is simply amazing. I like all the tubes and hose details. That's part of what makes it more 'complete'. Keep up the great work! Quote
Xtaz Posted January 9, 2006 Posted January 9, 2006 Hey Stian .... congratulation .. I love your models they are gorgeus ... this "Tempo Gigante" is flaring....cant wait to see it whit textures ... keep your great, great job ... Quote
DanCBradbury Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 normaly takes about 3 hours to render a 960x960 image. Do you realy need 36 passes? Anyway, any raycast above 1 will automatically disrupt the banding you got. If 2 rays removes the banding I guess I don't need 36 passes. But with just 1 ray there was an noticeable difference in the banding between 16 and 36 passes. I'm going to update the setup with 1 ray banding will always be present, but if you use 2 rays and up the resulting shadows will not have banding, rather noise. A noisy/random-dot shadow is 10x better than a banded shadow because there is no visible shadow imperfections like hard line shadow penumbras. Plus at 16 passes the noisy shadow becomes so softened that it no longer looks like noise at all. Quote
Sacman Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 It looks like the absolute bulk of your 22K plus patches are in the rivots/bolts/nuts. take those out and it looks like you might be left with about 1K If I could first produce a model and second render said model to produce even half of that result, I would consider myself a success. Beautiful, Wade Quote
DanCBradbury Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 How did you do the texturing on your tubing? And how did you do the spiraling tube comming out of the fule tank? On a relatd note, does anyone know of a tool in which you can move a collection of patches with 2 splines as the manipulation modifiers? I saw it once in a video tutorial on how to build a spider in A:M. it works somethin like this Quote
luckbat Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 You could just use a distortion grid to do that. Quote
MMZ_TimeLord Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Dan, For that particular manipulation... set your distortion box to 1x1x3. That will give you the effect you are showing there... Quote
DanCBradbury Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 Hu? What's a distortion grid? This was just an example. The actual group that i want to manipulate in this way is acually quite complex and the "manipulation splines" or what ever they're called would be curved in all sorts of random positions. I know A:M has this feature... I'M NOT CRAZY!! Quote
JohnArtbox Posted January 10, 2006 Posted January 10, 2006 great model Stian Beautiful detail and wonderful proportions Quote
Admin Rodney Posted January 10, 2006 Admin Posted January 10, 2006 Stian, Its already been said but I echo. Beautiful! Dan, Start another thread to explore the possibilities/process of distortion cages. It'll be well worth the investigation. Rodney Quote
trajcedrv Posted January 13, 2006 Posted January 13, 2006 AMAZING MODEL!!! what can I say more? ...um... good model... well done... ... Me wants some color! Quote
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