Wow, great progress Rob! I have been involved in an 'non-computer' animation job that has me doing some old timey pixillation so I have not been looking-in on the forum as often as I like to... so sorry for late response. I will need to digest your project to see just what the hey you got going on there... but it is sure looking better than mine, and I put a lot of time in on that chasing my tail, so I appreciate your effort! I see you are getting a better edge-render too, that had me concerned...