Guest carlosgf Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Hi My name is Carlos and I have came here to register, to read your post, to know more about AM, but first of all to ask questions. I will wait till you tell me the right windows for posting things like that. Before continue I must say that my knowledge about 3D and computer graphics resume to know that 3D means "three Dimensions" That´s all ...well I am learning Blender for a month or two , and all the info came from there... Thank you Quote
Xtaz Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Hi Carlos ..... First I would like to welcome you to our forum. we must begin with a basic question: since you mentioned that you use/used the blender for 2 months ... Do you already have the A:M? Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Do you already have the A:M? Thank you for the welcome Xtaz ! I do not have A:M. What I have right now is a big headache ! I am too much lost when I came to the Internet to search for a program that is simple and intuitive to use. But I found that everybody thinks that X, others that Y, and the remaining that Z are no doubt the easiest program to use. Some are honest and say that Y is the good one, and despite its leaning curve is an amazing tool at the end... About A:M, I saw a fantastic video about it, I thing is the demo reel, and I started to believe that 3D package, and animation, is not so difficult. The thing that most impressed me was the spline and not the polygons used for modelling (and here is exactly the lesson in which I started to think that modelling in blender (or other 3D package) is not so easy as should be. Spline seems to be far better option. What I am intending to do is modelling things that I have started in 2D paint (please follow the link) http://locosporelarte.mundoforo.com/kaiko-vt10940.html Of course, as I am lacking on those learning things on 3D, I confess that I am not sure if this is for me. And it is not easy to learn form zero a new package, unless it shows to be intuitive. I also saw 3DCoat, that seems to be a fantastic one. But has no animation. The A:M is kinda of out-of-date on all its pages in its site. And that is not a good signal (the same thing happened to PlasticAnimationPaper _it costed 600eur but their owners decided to release it for free for it has bugs and so on) Well, thank you for reading ... At least one thing is certain. I am improving my English every time that I register on a forum searching for that piece of material thing which will feed my expectations. Quote
largento Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Carlos, we all have our own experiences with using applications. I found that A:M makes more sense to me and although there is still a learning curve, I was able to move quickly to a point of being able to create my own characters, which was my big desire. I made great use of the resources of this forum as well as seeking out what tutorials I could find. I very much recommend seeking out and buying the video tutorials from Barry Zundel as they were extremely helpful to me. With your art background, I don't doubt that you will be able to accomplish some amazing things with A:M! Can't wait to see your work! Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted May 4, 2011 Hash Fellow Posted May 4, 2011 Since the very beginning, the goal of A:M has not been to contain every possible means of CG production, but to give artists truly useful tools to create narrative (story-telling) animation with their own characters. It is a difficult task to have all the features people expect in 3D animation and still keep it easy enough for one person to manage the whole workflow from beginning to end, but I think A:M has a better balance than any other program. I'm not saying it's "easy" but I think one person is more likely to get good things done with A:M than one person will with the others. Blender has many fine features but doesn't seem to have anyone guiding its development to make it easy to use. Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I'm not saying it's "easy" but I think one person is more likely to get good things done with A:M than one person will with the others. Thank you robcat2075 for explaining that to me. Quote
Gerry Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Hi Carlos and welcome! I will say that the one huge advantage that AM has over every other app is this forum. You can ask questions, no matter how basic or advanced, and get an answer sometimes in an hour but never more than a day. It's a great resource and the best thing you could have done is to register here and introduce yourself. Any 3D app has a learning curve but there are AM users here who have dived in and were doing character animation within just a couple of months. Good luck and stick around! Quote
KenH Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Welcome to the forum! As far as modeling goes, I have to say that AM is the most intuitive 3D software around.....for me anyway. However, keep in mind that if you want to detail your model in "other" software, it can be tricky but not impossible to make work. Though AM does have it's own solution....http://www.3dpainter.com/ Quote
fae_alba Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Simple suggestion...if you're even a little bit interested in learning A:M...don't just read the forums...buy it! For the price of a 1 year subscription, you won't be at a huge loss if you ultimately decide 3d is not for you. But the only way your going to be able to decide that is if you dive into the deep and and try it out. Quote
Fuchur Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 A:M is one of the most easy to use and learn animation-packages out there. Anything else will be much harder. (Anybody who tells you 3ds, Maya or XSI are easy would have been burned for being a liar in earlier days... ) I have tried 3ds, XSI and A:M in a production-environment – for me A:M is by far the easiest to learn and use. There may be other software packages which are more feature-rich in certain areas – the question is: Will it help you if you can't figure out how to use the feature? And what do you need 100 features for which may make something a little bit faster, if you can't find them anymore, because the interface is so stuffed with 100 list entries 1000 shortcut key combinations, etc.? A:M is much more intuitive and very easy to use and easy to start with. It has a very clean interface and if you dig deeper into 3d it will lead you all the way to a professional in little steps without overwhelming interfaces, unfriendly users or over-specialized tutorials that may help you to create a pen, but if you need to create a pencil you are still lost. There are other softwarepackages which can do amazing things and in certain areas have really nice features, but A:M's animation-system is unbeaten (not even close) by anything else and the ease and fun to use it, makes it my software of choice. The problem for you is: You read that in most other forums for competing software too... you have to decised who you want to believe. But keep in mind: Anyone who claims that any Autodesk product would be easy to use is not telling the truth or doesn't know it better. C4d is known to be a little easier than Autodesk's products, but it is still hard. I tried it (but not in a production-environment) and couldn't really wrap my head around it, even with all my experience with other 3d software programs. I had no real motivation to dig deeper into it so. See you *Fuchur* Quote
UNGLAUBLICHUSA Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I will probably get edited or censored but here it is: I have used Raydream, Lightwave and 3DS max - AM is so much more versitile and easy for me to use. Besides there is a huge community of people who are willing to help with questions and problems. Big or small. I say you can't go wrong with AM. I think some people are going to have to change their pants when they see the project i am working on in its finished form. Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 Thank you so much for your words! I will start to work with A:M for at least one month to see how it is. I am in love with the word easy, not that I do not have to do anything to get real meaning of its tools but easy means that I do not have to fight the software in order to obtain what I am looking for. You all got 5 points to five for giving me your real opinion. And was Fuchur who wrote "you have to decised who you want to believe". And as I dont know nothing about 3D software (only blender for a short time) I have to trust you for I do not have any resource of information whithing me to discuss a subject. But, meanwhile I am going to work with A:M and see if it is intuitive and easy to use... I hope so for I am going to get sick if I have to search for another software. (it was a kind of intuition but you mention C4D and LW, and those were the very ones I was also searching for 3Danimation and creation) Have you seen my 2D work? Is A:M capable of realistic images? Would you mind to give me a link (not from the gallery for it is a kind of weird to look around) from an image done in A:M. I am intending to do The Banana into a 3D image Thank you for your wellcome and I will be around here for a while! (does A:M has lower prices for users coming from 2D?.... jejeje I hope so! Quote
John Bigboote Posted May 4, 2011 Posted May 4, 2011 I like your art, Carlos! I think you would find A:M is better suited for artists... Blender better for technical peoples. I know there is a big price difference, but looking at it artisticly... A:M is a much nicer brush to paint with. PLUS you have all of us to help you learn... are people offering to show you Blender? Hope you stick around! Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted May 4, 2011 Hash Fellow Posted May 4, 2011 Is A:M capable of realistic images? Dirty little secret... all the 3D apps pretty much have the same rendering abilities. The differences are minor overall. Realistic imagery is mostly up to your good judgment in lighting and texturing your model well. New users will find that challenging in any program.. Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Dirty little secret... Hajaaaa!!! I think I understand you robcat207 very well. That little secret happened to me when I first did one of the digital eye. I was absolutely amazed for what I had been able to accomplish in my first attempt on the 2D digital world that I said to myself: well.... I think it could be done with similar result using another software ! That was literally a BOOMMM inside my head. I will be around for some time John. It never cross to my mind that thing of "A:M is better suited for artists... Blender better for technical peoples". Thank you once again! robcat207, are you Brazilian? Your group being Hash Fellow means that you, John and others are part of the administration here?... just questions... I am not from the FBI Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted May 5, 2011 Hash Fellow Posted May 5, 2011 robcat207, are you Brazilian? no, i'm in Texas. We do have some forum members from Brazil however. Your group being Hash Fellow means that you, John and others are part of the administration here?... just questions... I am not from the FBI The Hash Fellows aren't employees of Hash, it's more like an honorary knighthood. We're long time users who are less likely than average to be wrong about something about A:M. Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Another thing that I have noticed is that there is no being a development since a long time. And almost all the pages related to A:M are out-of-date with several videos and images that do not fit to the actual 3D complete package image of A:M. I was told recently that the major update of the software was made in the last month. And that must be a kind of relief for some of you, I think... I just wanted to say that words about that robcat207, I asked you that cause "garçon triste" is a Portuguese word Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted May 5, 2011 Hash Fellow Posted May 5, 2011 Another thing that I have noticed is that there is no being a development since a long time. And almost all the pages related to A:M are out-of-date with several videos and images that do not fit to the actual 3D complete package image of A:M. you mean the box? Boxes are pretty minor today. I was told recently that the major update of the software was made in the last month. And that must be a kind of relief for some of you, I think... I just wanted to say that words about that It wasn't a "relief" because we knew it was coming and that A:M was still being developed and we had been testing out the pre-release beta versions all along. robcat207, I asked you that cause "garçon triste" is a Portuguese word C'est Francais, aussi. Quote
Xtaz Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Is A:M capable of realistic images? Would you mind to give me a link (not from the gallery for it is a kind of weird to look around) from an image done in A:M. Hi Carlos ... In this post I attached some works that I produced... and .. since you asked, I'm brazilian get inside .... Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 robcat207, That is funny for I thought that those words were Portuguese Xtaz, pois é. tu és un Animador Profissional! Your Still Images caught my eyes, and my imagination. I just found amazing the textures on the one with the house made of wood. And there are good animations on your videos, and for all that I was not surprised to know that you are known here as one of the expert Not being disrespectfull to the others members from A:M, but your gallery (I did not see all for I am a bit tired right now) is one of the best I have seen around here (please, to all of the members here, I have found the system gallery a bit weird, so I have not had the patient to visit too many of you. that is all) For what I have seeing, character is the most difficult to do, for we can find very good textures objects, cars, tables, doors, houses, etc... form a user but the human characters made by the same person are not as good as the rest (not talking about the animation) . Thank you... time to rest! Quote
Fuchur Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Good to hear you are in That is the best way to learn and test it anyway. Some of the (for me) best images done with A:M can be found in my signature. It is only my opinion so. There are many many more which are equal or maybe even better. and I just didn't think of them when making the site. See you and welcome to the community *Fuchur* PS: I am very likely that noone will be offend by saying that Xtaz is one of the best of us. Just amazing what he can do. He is not the only one with a good portfolio so. (no I dont consider myself to be anywhere close ). Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 'Fuchur', I have some questions. First, I must say that even despite the good things I have seen around here, and I am talking about Still Images and Video from the users (not to talk about this forum that I think is a really good one ), I was a bit disappointed with some of them when comparing to other software´s images. If I stay here (some more questions to ask!) that is because you show me the right images I wanted to see. And THEY ARE ALL FANTASTIC and some are beautifully-realistic ones !... that tooked my heart Questions here. Is there any code script, language that I have to learn/write or whatever into A:M ? If YES, that would be a NO for me Tell me, the gallery from your favourites are not photo-manipulations? or photo-shop thing-help? For example http://www.hash.com/stills/albums/Jun07/05.jpg http://www.hash.com/stills/albums/userpics/landscape.jpg All was done with A:M, from ground zero? Is there any need of another application to be used to improve those 3D images? I have notice (I am too critical ) that some of them are lacking a bit of depth, or is it just my impression? If my comment is right, does it be improved by using another render? (remember, I do not know what I am talking about... I just know what the words 3D means ) Is A:M capable of some effects, like moving particles, smoke.... ? Too much questions for a minute of lecture jejeje See you all And Thanks ! Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 When I said that I was a bit disappointed is because my nature-inner-feelings of realism was coming out of me. Just for that. No complaining about any work from here.... and in most of the cases, I am willing to be as good as the first ones that I saw (I need to say this: my nature language is Spanish, emigrated to Portuguese. When I write in English I try to accomplish what my Spanish-Portuguese´s mind is telling me, than translate that to a sort of English.. and than here is the final result Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 And what about the 3Dpainter? *Fuchur*, did those images use 3Dpainter in the process? Would someone here please show me a link/image to see a work done with this 3DPainter. Thank you in advance! The site from 3DPainter has just a few images done with it. But i think those were done long ago. So I came here to ask you for this little help! So, it is a separated tool, and it is a kind of a new software that I have to learn, right?... that is no a thing that I would like to do... to be honest you can only do good work in a program if you spend some time and effort with it, and if this is the case I have to work by two... Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 And here is something that I was not expecting from the 3DPainter program. I was seeing the pictures there and read this "Open the image in Photoshop and redraw a picture precisely"... SO, I have to learn A:M, 3DPainter, AND Photoshop ? Well, I thought that A:M program was a full package. Now I am more out than in I misunderstood many things. Quote
Admin Rodney Posted May 5, 2011 Admin Posted May 5, 2011 Well, I thought that A:M program was a full package. Now I am more out than in I misunderstood many things. Carlos, Misunderstanding is a great way to put it. Perhaps you are also misunderstanding that with other full featured programs you'd be able to learn 3DCG without an image program like Gimp or Photoshop? You certainly can learn to animate without them. Learning 3DCG is the easy part. Applying what you've learned is the part that isn't as easy. I suppose you could always save yourself the time and money (and contribute more to society!) by becoming a doctor instead. As with most things in life, you tend to get out of it proportionally what you are willing to put in. Added: I looked at your website (http://locosporelarte.mundoforo.com/kaiko-vt10940.html) I think you'd do just fine with A:M. The bananasnake would be pretty straightforward. For example http://www.hash.com/stills/albums/Jun07/05.jpg http://www.hash.com/stills/albums/userpics/landscape.jpg All was done with A:M, from ground zero? Outside of some textures likely created in Photoshop or Gimp... those are all created from ground zero in A:M. You can probably find topics in the Work In Progress section that follow how they were created. Quote
zandoriastudios Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 And what about the 3Dpainter? *Fuchur*, did those images use 3Dpainter in the process? Would someone here please show me a link/image to see a work done with this 3DPainter. Thank you in advance! The site from 3DPainter has just a few images done with it. But i think those were done long ago. So I came here to ask you for this little help! So, it is a separated tool, and it is a kind of a new software that I have to learn, right?... that is no a thing that I would like to do... to be honest you can only do good work in a program if you spend some time and effort with it, and if this is the case I have to work by two... The new mascot for A:M was painted in 3D Painter Quote
itsjustme Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 Questions here. is there any code script, language that I have to learn/write or whatever into A:M ? If YES, that would be a NO for me You don't have to know any code to use A:M, but there is a scripting method to extend some of the capabilities called Expressions (just like most other 3D packages). If you're interested in a primer on Expressions, you might check the "QuickStart" tutorials (in AM:Films) linked in my signature or this thread. Tell me, the gallery from your favourites are not photo-manipulations? or photo-shop thing-help? For example http://www.hash.com/stills/albums/Jun07/05.jpg The truck is one of Stian's...the gallery on his site is here. He has threads on these forums showing a few of them as he works on them. Here are few: Nidaros cathedral Liebherr 752 KM Bismarck Zagato Perana Z-One FS Clemenceau http://www.hash.com/stills/albums/userpics/landscape.jpg The landscape was made by Mark Skodacek. The thread for that is here. He has some of his other landscape work in these threads: SO sets Orca on the Hunt particle clouds TWO Wallpaper Nimmie's Exterior Something I've been working on All was done with A:M, from ground zero? I'm not sure what paint programs were used for texturing, but as far as I know, all A:M except for textures. Is A:M capable of some effects, like moving particles, smoke.... ? Yes, do a search on the forums for smoke. And here is something that I was not expecting from the 3DPainter program. I was seeing the pictures there and read this "Open the image in Photoshop and redraw a picture precisely"... SO, I have to learn A:M, 3DPainter, AND Photoshop ? Well, I thought that A:M program was a full package. Now I am more out than in You don't have to use Photoshop with 3DPainter, but you can. I don't think 3DPainter presently supports OpenEXR (someone correct me if I'm wrong), so maybe that's what is meant by "more precisely". Hope that helps, Carlos. ----------------------------- EDIT ----------------------------- After some double-checking, I fixed a few links in this post...should work fine now. Quote
NancyGormezano Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 SO, I have to learn A:M, 3DPainter, AND Photoshop ? Loosely, 2D means creating images (flat) in 2 dimensions (like painting). 3D means creating models in 3 dimensions (like sculpture) No. It is not necessary to learn 3DPainter and Photoshop in order to learn A:M. Photoshop is for painting images in 2D. The same as whatever software you are using currently to create your 2D works. Additionally, it is not necessary to use 3D painter either. The images (stills) that you linked to did NOT use 3DPainter: http://www.hash.com/stills/albums/Jun07/05.jpg http://www.hash.com/stills/albums/userpics/landscape.jpg A:M creates 3 dimensional models that you can then animate if you choose, or use to create only 1 image, ie, those you see in the gallery: a still (2D image). If you want to put 2D textures on your 3D model (eg a wood grain) - then you would use a 2D image manipulation application like photoshop (or gimp, or whatever) to create the texture that A:M could use to "color" your 3D models. 3D painter on the other hand will allow you to "paint" on your 3D models. Many here do not use 3D painter, it is a very nice additional tool, but it is not necessary to have. It is not required to put textures on your 3D models, but more than likely you will want to, being an artist. However most 2D digital artists already have at least 1 2D image manipulation program. It does not have to be photoshop. AND NO NO NO - you do not need to write any script to use A:M. That is one of the best, most brilliant things about A:M. No scripting required. Other 3D packages seem to insist on it. YUCK. However, A:M does have a script like feature - called "expressions". I have been using A:M for 10 plus years, and have never felt the need to write any script like mathematical expression using A:M. for the creation of any image or animation. I am also an ex-programmer/mathematician/systems engineer. There are people here, who are more engineering oriented who seem to enjoy it, but it is definitely NOT necessary for any artist, who prefers to have more "brush" control. And YES, A:M has the ability to do numerous types of special effects. One would use things referred to as materials, sprites, and/or particles to create smoke, explosions, hair, etc Quote
Fuchur Posted May 5, 2011 Posted May 5, 2011 All 3d-packages need a 2d-paint-programm to create textures for them. I don't know of any that would not need one and I doubt that there ever will be one that really doesn't need one. Blender, C4d, Maya, Max, 3ds > there is no exception. You can however produce comic-style-output without the need of a 2d-paint-programm, but anything realistically is in most cases although based on great textures, which very likely have to be manipulated or produced in a paint-programm. The Gimp is a free one with quite many good features, Photoshop is one of the most known once (and is very good) and there are others too. 3d painter is not needed, but it can help. It is a nice programm that makes things a little easier on the texturing process, but in general you don't really need it. I however think, that it is a great addition. Later you may even consider yourself learning a program like AfterEffects, so A:M has quite a good featureset in that region too and you will very likely don't need AfterEffects for 90% of your work. Any 3d-movie or animation you see today (at least the once which are good enough to be mentioned) are using many different programs to create the final output. A:M can create a 3d-animation without anything else using procentual textures and predefined soundfiles, but in the end, if you want to go for reality-like output, you will need a few more programms like TheGimp and an audiosoftware like Audacity. There is no 3d software where you don't need any additional software available, so most others need a few programms more like an editing-software (like FinalCut, Adobe Premiere, etc), postproduction-software (AfterEffects, Fusion, etc.) and often specialist 3d-software and / or plugins to create special tasks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3d painter: - I know that for the Alien in my "best of A:M" collection it has been used. Most other images have not used 3d painter so. 3d Painter is a great addition if you want to create characters. For technical animations (like cars, houses, etc.) you don't really need it. Don't be frightened by such things: Most of these step will be fun! But creating something needs you to do something. It is not an automatic process where you just think "Do a cool movie" and it is there. If it would be that easy (with any software) we would see 1000s of cool new movies a day... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Scripting is not needed in A:M. You can use Expressions (thats stuff like one line of very simple code like "If(translate.x > 5, 1, 2)", but you really dont need to do that. Any effect that can be created with expressions can be created with more graphical based tools in A:M too and there are preset character bonestructures (called rigs) which will do most things for you. See you *Fuchur* Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 This is a big WOOUUUUHH!!!!! You are just PHENOMENAL. It´s the least I can say. Yesterday I spent a big time reading what you all said and wrote to me (and to others that may be having the same doubts) and it was easy to understand the main conclusion from all of this: Hash, your virtual community is a very nice presence along with your software ! I am totally in. Thank you once more. You wrote very well, using clear words and easy to understand paragraphs. I learnt a lot from what you have wrote, understanding my lack of specific knowledge, actually the basic ones, concerning to the making of 3D things. Carlos Quote
Xtaz Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Hi Carlos ... I produced a video showing the basic steps to create texture without using 2d software ( photoshop, gimp ...... ).. as I said ..you just need it if you want to create a custom texture. carlos.mov Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Xtaz, I do not know what to say to you. You have just surprised me. And I was not expecting something like this. I just want you to Know that I am happy for the video you produce. Thank you so much! Big thanks. MUITO OBRIGADO ! Yesterday I tried to download A:M but I think it was not exactly the A:M program. Was it? It has "render" on its name, but during the installation it asked me to give a serial number to properly install the program. I just don't have any serial number. So, is there any trial version of A:M that I can start using it before I got the paid version? (I am reluctant to buy it by pay-pal _I don't trust any on-line paying system so far_ so I asked by email using the support and contact form from your site to someone to give me how much it will cost me to buy A:M and 3DPainter also (I am sure I will need it ), and another CD tutorial which I do not remember now its name, and the codes for making a bank transference (it is the best way I found, but my bank charges me about 50eur for doing that, so I am willing to ear someone else opinion about this. But it has being 3 days or so that i haven't got any answer) Well as I was saying, I need the program to follow your video Xtaz. And of course to start practising. By the way, is someone on this community living here in Portugal? Thank you once more virtual friends ! Quote
NancyGormezano Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Yesterday I tried to download A:M but I think it was not exactly the A:M program. Was it? It has "render" on its name, but during the installation it asked me to give a serial number to properly install the program. I just don't have any serial number. So, is there any trial version of A:M that I can start using it before I got the paid version? (I am reluctant to buy it by pay-pal _I don't trust any on-line paying system so far_ so I asked by email using the support and contact form from your site to someone to give me how much it will cost me to buy A:M and 3DPainter also (I am sure I will need it ), and another CD tutorial which I do not remember now its name, and the codes for making a bank transference (it is the best way I found, but my bank charges me about 50eur for doing that, so I am willing to ear someone else opinion about this. But it has being 3 days or so that i haven't got any answer) Carlos - There is NO trial version. The cost of a 1 year subscription is $79.99. The subscription expires 1 year after you activate the software with the serial number that Hash will send you, after you purchase the subscription. I do not think Hash has any way to accept monies other than thru the automatic payment method setup via their store. I could be wrong, but Hash does not have a full time staff, on call 24/7. I suspect they will get back to you after the weekend. I would recommend that you do NOT purchase 3D painter at this time, until you become more familiar with A:M. You will know when it is right for you to purchase 3D painter. It is a wonderful program, but it is best to concentrate on A:M first. I am not sure about the name (with render on its name?) - but make sure you download the correct version for your computer. For the PC there are 2 versions the 32 bit (AM_32BIT.exe) and 64 bit (AM_64BIT.exe). If your OS, computer support 64 bit, I believe you can download & install both versions. You will probably initially want to use the 32 bit version, as the 64 bit has some funnies currently being worked on. I do not know the restrictions on the MAC version (Intel, OSX, other? AM.zip) here is link to purchase page Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted May 8, 2011 Hash Fellow Posted May 8, 2011 Paypal is safe as long as you don't give anyone your password and that should be pretty easy to avoid. Simple rule: Paypal will never email you and ask you for your password. Only enter your password on the URL that is www.paypal.com Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 8, 2011 Posted May 8, 2011 Thank you to you both for the information ! Nevertheless, the best thing I can think of to do is to wait till I receive an answer from Hash. I do not buy things by internet using credit card. By the way, the page to add our credit card account in Hash is now out of date. I have checked it out. Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted May 9, 2011 Hash Fellow Posted May 9, 2011 Well, let us know when you're on board. We'll still be here. Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Is it possible to be hired for a work that implies to work with 3D images (still images, short movies, work with other colleges on-line, and more) when we know A:M as our main tool? Quote
John Bigboote Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 I don't really understand that question. Many of us are employed in the visual arts industry and use A:M as a tool in our toolboxes... Quote
Fuchur Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 Is it possible to be hired for a work that implies to work with 3D images (still images, short movies, work with other colleges on-line, and more) when we know A:M as our main tool? A:M is less spread in the industry than some other 3d software. If you really want to get hired not because of your animation skill but because of the software you use, you will have to go with Autodesk products (but be aware of about 10-40 times higher prices). But in the end: If you dont learn 3d, it doesnt matter anyway. A:M is a great choice to start off with. It will be much easier to learn it than anything else and after you understood the principles you will easily adapt other software that may be needed to join a hollywood-production. And of course: There are although studios which use A:M. It is your choice. Many great guys who started with A:M are now leading people in the biggest studios. But keep in mind: It is a long way to become that good. See you *Fuchur* Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 John, You have just answered my question just fine (despite my question was lacking a good grammatik) Thank you *Fuchur*, good answer. You seam to understand very well that world of 3D. Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Well, my conclution is that the support&contact from Hash did not recieve my last email. I will write to them. Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Can someone here help me with that thing of writing to the Hash company in order for me to get a an answer as soon as possible? Thank you Quote
John Bigboote Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Other than jason at hash dot com or support at hash dot com... you could join the facebook page and try getting ahold of Jason there. He is a busy man, and as you could imagine being 'at the helm' of a major player in the 3D arts business- the girls just don't leave him alone. Quote
Fuchur Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Other than jason at hash dot com or support at hash dot com... you could join the facebook page and try getting ahold of Jason there. He is a busy man, and as you could imagine being 'at the helm' of a major player in the 3D arts business- the girls just don't leave him alone. Especially his girlfriend *Fuchur* Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 The mail from Hash has just arrived. Thank you to "you" who speed up this issue. They told me they only accept credit card. So, it is time to say good bye to you. Thank you all for the encouragement and respect you have show me ! Carlos Ferreira (this thing of we (Hash) can "only" accept this or that makes me remember that same thing about doctors and medicines: they (doctors) can "only" give you the names of the product of which they got money advantage if we buy it on the pharmacy. They avoid or are reluctant that us became cured with other drugs or medicines...) That is something that makes me think EDIT: They also accept money mail. I will be back to them and get informed Quote
Fuchur Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 The mail from Hash has just arrived. Thank you to "you" who speed up this issue. They told me they only accept credit card. So, it is time to say good bye to you. Thank you all for the encouragement and respect you have show me ! Carlos Ferreira (this thing of we (Hash) can "only" accept this or that makes me remember that same thing about doctors and medicines: they (doctors) can "only" give you the names of the product of which they got money advantage if we buy it on the pharmacy. They avoid or are reluctant that us became cured with other drugs or medicines...) That is something that makes me think EDIT: They also accept money mail. I will be back to them and get informed That always has been a problem for me too, since I don't have a creditcard. (credit cards are much less commone in Germany than in the US). Paypal is another option that can be given to you. It is not automated so and you have to talk to Hash directly. Just to mention it: Hash is not like bad doctors or miss treatment... it is just a question of possibilities they can offer without having problems. For example: In Germany you can cancel bank transfers within 14 days without a reason and just get you money back. In that time you would have the software already at your computer. So Hash would have a problem getting the money from you. Since that is only true here for national, not international transfers, it is not an issue here so. That is a risk some companies will be willing to risk, some not. I can understand both parties. This sort of things are often getting in the way. I can understand why not all the possibilities to buy something are offered. It is just too much trouble. Best wishes *Fuchur* Quote
jakerupert Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Maybe just put your money in an envelope and send it via good old snailmail. That would put a certain risk of loss on your side, but I am quite sure, when Jason will get the letter, he will give you what you want... >EDIT: They also accept money mail. I will be back to them and get informed Quote
Guest carlosgf Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 In that time you would have the software already at your computer. They have my word... ...but now-a-days that means nothing to most of the people but I think moneymail would be way too expensive.... I don´t know for sure. I will wait to the next mail, to see a little further on this subject. Thank you Quote
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