zandoriastudios Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 Here is a WIP of a cage. I am basing it on an asian cricket cage--not sure if I want to stay with this or do something a bit more rustic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Forwood Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Very nice effect! But how did you get it in the shadow on the ground? Is it the result of using AO along with your pencil textures? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Looks nice. How about twigs in place of the dowels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Rogers Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 How about twigs in place of the dowels?I agree. Go for the 'bodged' look rather than the 'factory made' look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandoriastudios Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 I agree too. needs to look more organic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Also, I'm not sure that design it condusive to him empting out the last fairy or even taking out fairies. The "door" seems too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandoriastudios Posted February 22, 2006 Author Share Posted February 22, 2006 The gate raises as high as the lid. So he should be able to reach in and pull out a fairy... He will probably have to pick up the cage and use both hands. Opening the gate and shaking a bit should dump out the last fairy. Figuring that the logistics of keeping a fairy in a cage should be similar to keeping a cricket in a cage, this is where I started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Figuring that the logistics of keeping a fairy in a cage should be similar to keeping a cricket in a cage, this is where I started Mwa hahaha! *evil grin*. Seriously though, I really love this story idea Will. I just think it syncs in well with what I would do if I had any imagination anymore . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noah brewer Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 Wonderful drawings! I bet that troll will take some time to model, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginsdj Posted March 31, 2010 Share Posted March 31, 2010 Hey Will, do you still need the fairy modeled? (I've now got 7 mths off work to do my own movie and wouldn't mind the distraction every now and then) Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandoriastudios Posted April 1, 2010 Author Share Posted April 1, 2010 This is one of those things that went off my radar a few years ago.... I'm working on the Tar of Zandoria stuff exclusively now (not even accepting any comissions), so I don't know when/if I will get back around to this.... I did suggest it to Lee in another thread where (i thought) he was looking for ideas for a short...Ken already made a troll. If you make a fairy, then it is really just one set and some props, and ready to go... What about it Lee?, do you want to direct/produce this? it already has concept art and storyboards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 This is one of those things that went off my radar a few years ago.... I'm working on the Tar of Zandoria stuff exclusively now (not even accepting any comissions), so I don't know when/if I will get back around to this.... I did suggest it to Lee in another thread where (i thought) he was looking for ideas for a short...Ken already made a troll. If you make a fairy, then it is really just one set and some props, and ready to go... What about it Lee?, do you want to direct/produce this? it already has concept art and storyboards I do have to say I'd love to see this short done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgaylord Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 What about a woven cage something like in the photo? If the fairies are bound somehow before being chucked into the cage, then excape would be less of a problem and a simple lid or opening would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted April 2, 2010 Admin Share Posted April 2, 2010 I've got to say... this would be a very amazing short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted April 2, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted April 2, 2010 I hadn't caught this before. I like that it's all visual and doesn't depend on any dialog. Those ideas are rare. And the limited scope makes it feasible to do well. I agree with some previous comments that it needs a punchline or some other reversal for the troll at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 I hadn't caught this before. I like that it's all visual and doesn't depend on any dialog. Those ideas are rare. And the limited scope makes it feasible to do well. I agree with some previous comments that it needs a punchline or some other reversal for the troll at the end. If you were aiming for a Disney-esque style story, then I'd agree that a warm and fuzzy beginning would be necessary. But, I think this story stands on its own, with the imagery in the storyboards, an outstanding soundtrack, and solid directing this short would be top notch. Will, I would offer a word of caution though; one of the banes of writing scripts, is that once a director takes it on, he/she gets to add their own ideas to the piece. So if you hand it over to someone else, get their agreement that the story remains untouched (if that is what you wish). I'd love to work on this project. Sadly, with my own short forcing me to admit that my modeling skills are far behind the quality I expect, I'd not be comfortable with doing that part of it. My strengths, I am realizing, is in the production/story telling side of things (sort of falls in line with 20 plus years in project management I suppose). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilidrake Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 Would love to see this finished Will. I'll keeping checking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeAnderson Posted April 2, 2010 Share Posted April 2, 2010 This is one of those things that went off my radar a few years ago.... I'm working on the Tar of Zandoria stuff exclusively now (not even accepting any comissions), so I don't know when/if I will get back around to this.... I did suggest it to Lee in another thread where (i thought) he was looking for ideas for a short...Ken already made a troll. If you make a fairy, then it is really just one set and some props, and ready to go... What about it Lee?, do you want to direct/produce this? it already has concept art and storyboards This is amazing Will-the storyboards are fantastic. Can I borrow some of your artistic talent for a sec? The idea is great, it's not exactly what I had in mind. Ever since I saw this post though and have been looking at the storyboards it's been on my mind and I've been going over it in mind over and over again like a frustrated troll who can't seem to get any fish Besides, let's get real, Will, no one could give this the proper directing treatment it needed except for the guy that came up with it. I'd love to see this finished, and if you'd like any modeling/lighting/texturing help, don't forget your buddy with the little video game guy avatar, mmmk? I would love to light something like this. You da' man! Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted April 2, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted April 2, 2010 If you were aiming for a Disney-esque style story, then I'd agree that a warm and fuzzy beginning would be necessary. It doesn't have to be warm and fuzzy, the reversal on the troll might be quite grim for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted April 3, 2010 Admin Share Posted April 3, 2010 I agree with some previous comments that it needs a punchline or some other reversal for the troll at the end. I haven't looked at Will's storyboard in a long time but I'm trying to imagine what that reversal might be. The story 'as is' is compeling enough as the story demonstrates (from trollish and faerie perspectives) that that's just the way life is. I think the reversal is already there in that the troll isn't the mean ol' nasty that we initially see him as. It's our view of him that changes. He's just fishin'. Its stark and a little too real... not my usual cup tea... but I get it. Award winning storytelling this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted April 3, 2010 Admin Share Posted April 3, 2010 Okay... couldn't stop thinking about this story. It's captivated me over the years. Seeing it bumped up again has reminded me just how great a short story this is. One aspect that I really like about it is how we (as the audience) change. For instance, at the beginning of the film (I'll call it a film because that's what this thing needs to be!) I am the Troll. While I might have some symphathy for the plight of the fearies... they don't compel me to want to be them. I am the Troll and for some reason I can't quite recall, they are trapped and rather nasty little things. As the film rolls on I find myself enjoying being the Troll. I'm walking down the path, sitting on the dock... I'm a fishing Troll. Shock. Okay... maybe I'm not the Troll. But I sure don't want to be the Faerie either. Like the Faerie I'm trapped too and I've got no place to go. No... No... I'm definitely the Faerie. ...and now I'm all alone. I'm doomed. This is it. My life is over. What? I'm free? How wonderful! The Troll has freed me? What a wonderful Troll! Fade out. Roll Credits. Now I'm back to being myself and I'm having a heck of a time trying to comprehend the incredible experience I just had as a Faerie and a Troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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