Robert-Jank Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Name: Micah Jank Exercise completed: #11 Date Completed: a long time ago. remarks: the back is a little off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuboos Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 ok quick question what do i set the lathe cross section to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fybs Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Name: Claudio Ravenstein (fybs) Exercise completed: Exercise 11: Giraffe Date completed: 7. February 2006 Instructor: The manual Here is my giraffe. It was grate fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomike Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Mike Dalton Exercises Done: 11 Date Completed: March 6th, 2006 Notes: Difficult Exercise. Making the Horns flow natually from the head was my bane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted March 7, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted March 7, 2006 Interesting horns on that giraffe. I have visions of giraffes charging each other and butting heads like rams. Good job everyone. Modeling giraffe is definitely harder than it looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkoonce Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Stumped! I am at a holding point on page 124 of this exercise, I don't seem to under stand what is being asked here, is the directions asking me to connect the control points that I am showing in the screen capture I added? [attachmentid=15295] Bob Koonce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkoonce Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Disregard my last post, figured it out Completed exercise 11 Name: Bob Koonce Exercise Completed: 11 Giraffe [attachmentid=15472] Date Completed:3-26-06 Instructor: Individuals on forum, TAoA:M, Video tutorials, and other material. Remarks/Suggestions for improvement: None at this time Any comments or constructive criticism will be appreciated. Thankx, Bob Koonce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo73 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Bob, Glad to see that you got past being stuck. There is some stretching going on with the eyes, but other than that good job. Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Name: John Booker Exercise completed: #11 Date Completed: March 30, 2006. remarks: Fun..... now to learn about rigs....[attachmentid=15629] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo73 Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Very nice John. I like the background that you chose to add to it. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuboos Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I DID IT I FINALLY DID IT ITS OVER ITS FINALLY OVER.... ehhem sorry about that Name: Sam Wiley Exercise completed: 11 giraffe comments/suggestion: i don't care what you guys say i don't want to go back to this one i had to have 2 cups of coffey to calm my nerves [attachmentid=15980] sweet i only have 3 more to complete and then i'm done with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo73 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Good job Sam. Your really tearing through these exercises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkyu111 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Name: Stephen Molloy Exercise: #11 Giraffe Date: April 18 2006 Instructor: A.M. Book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo73 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Excellent Stephen. Looks like Rabbit and Cooper are having a really good time. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaNord Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I'm normally fine without a video tutorial (I've actually only used one video tutorial for flower power)! Anyways, I just have a quick question with this one... on pg 122 (Yeti book) it says in the Neck section to "click a control point on the back ring of the head. Pick [Edit][Complement Spline] to group just the back spline ring." Anyways, as you can see from my screen capture I can't seem to find the "Complement Spline" button. Am I looking in the wrong place? [attachmentid=18122] Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 First of all. Make sure you grab the cp by clocking on the back spline next to it. Then, according to your picture, pick "Select Spline" or use the hot key "," to do the same thing. I hope this helps . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaNord Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hmmm Thanks for trying to help Zaryin, when I hit select spline this is how the edit menu reads.... (same as before) [attachmentid=18132] Does that button go by a different name now? It's a mystery? I dunno where it's at?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyGormezano Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 on pg 122 (Yeti book) it says in the Neck section to "click a control point on the back ring of the head. Pick [Edit][Complement Spline] to group just the back spline ring." Complement spline is the same as invert selection or "." (EDIT: I think) first hit , to select spline or use the lasso to select spline - then hit . to get the invert or complement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeresaNord Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!! That worked!!!!! Ah man I've had the best day and this just tops it all off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neu_Type Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 Name: James M Glover Exercise Completed: Exercise 11 Date Completed: 26 July, 2006 [attachmentid=18782] Done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted July 26, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted July 26, 2006 Done... ...and well done too. Another fine example of great single image storytelling from James Glover. For some reason that image makes me think of the 'Far Side' comic panel. All it needs is a witty tagline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyB Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Exercise 11: Giraffe August 16, 2006 John Bailey This is a snapshot of a giraffe that I took while on my vacation safari in Kenya National Park. I also took some video of the same giraffe.[attachmentid=19680] http://media.putfile.com/Safari-Photo-Shoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted August 16, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted August 16, 2006 Mr. John Bailey!!! I think you are the first EVER to animate that giraffe.** (and a fine looking giraffe he is too) You sir deserve some kind of award. **Disclaimer: I'm sure someone else has too but I can't remember and their's couldn't have been animated as well as yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted August 16, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted August 16, 2006 (A little cross pollenization with www.drawspace.com here) If you really want to understand objects in 3D its a good idea to study them in pencil, pen, crayola, marker... any tool will do. Once you understand what it is you want to build it becomes much easier for you. Here then is a lesson from www.drawspace.com: Lesson in Drawing a Giraffe Disclaimer: This lesson is off site and not affiliated with Hash Inc. For problems accessing the lessons visit www.drawspace.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LurkerAbove Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Exercise 11: Giraffe Name: Glen Clarkson Date Completed: 8/22/2006 Observations: whew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torak Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Name: Shane O'Sullivan Exercise Completed: Exercise 11 Date Completed: September 25, 2006 Instructor: None / Manual and Online Video tutorial Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: [attachmentid=20887] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_black_mage Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 very nice! mabe i should do that tutoral..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralfaz Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Name: Al Dinelt Exercise Completed: Exercise 11: Giraffe Date Completed: October 7, 2006 Instructor: TAoA:M Had something wonky happen when I was doing the copy/flip/attach portion of this exercise. After the process was done, I had lost most of my patches from the back end of the giraffe. The interconnecting splines between control points were gone. It didn't take too much to add the splines again and everything was okay afterwards. Eleven down and nine to go... [attachmentid=21186] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar Posted October 7, 2006 Share Posted October 7, 2006 Nice work Al. And that bull looks so real, great job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Name: Caroline Begbie Exercise: Exercise 11 - Giraffe Date Completed: 1st Nov 2006 [attachmentid=21891] Mine's the one with knobbly knees and fat ankles. That was fun doing an alpha channel render and fitting it into a photo. You are really getting quick! Quick? I've spent all day trying to fit a round horn into a square patch. My family are making appointments to see me.... I guess I can make it up to them by taking their photo with a giraffe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpappas Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 My family are making appointments to see me.... I guess I can make it up to them by taking their photo with a giraffe. Too funny!! -Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted November 1, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted November 1, 2006 Nice composition Caroline. As Exercise 11 already has a .5 exercise (the Cooper modeling tutorial) there isn't room another there. Maybe we should make a Ex 11.25 on compositing this guy into various backgrounds? I love that you all are going the extra mile to give these 'characters' a home. I have no doubt that the effort will pay off for you all later. Keep up the great work everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted November 1, 2006 Hash Fellow Share Posted November 1, 2006 Hey, those are some good looking giraffes in this thread! [attachmentid=21891] I looked at this pic and thought "the giraffe on the left has some sort of spline problem that's pinching his neck. And what a bad pose on his neck! oh wait... that's the real giraffe..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 I looked at this pic and thought "the giraffe on the left has some sort of spline problem that's pinching his neck. And what a bad pose on his neck! oh wait... that's the real giraffe..." LOL, Robert, are you critiquing God's work now? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpappas Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 That cracks me up! I thought the same thing when I saw that giraffe. Maybe we should alter the steps in Exercise 11 to not make such a perfect Giraffe? -Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_black_mage Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 oh god i thought the exact same thing!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted November 2, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted November 2, 2006 heheh Caroline, Looks like you can consider that a successful submission for Exercise 11. Okay... from now on giraffes need to be purple and pink or paisly textured to keep them distiguishable from the real thing. (I want to echo Roberts praise... there are indeed some nice giraffes in this thread! Kudos to all.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Gamblin Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 [attachmentid=22175] Name: Joe Gamblin (Achilles Desire) Exercise Completed: Exercise 11 Date Completed: Nov. 11, 2006 Instructor: None / Manual and Online Video tutorial Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: Sorry it's been so long but on October 17 my second son , Simon Lucas, was born and I've been busy changing diapers. Anyhoo, about the project, I had some real problems getting the decal to apply correctly (the five point patches around the legs would have holes and there were holes around the ears and head details) and finally had to flatten the model to get everything to attach correctly. Then there were problems with trying to get the color temp and saturation to match the photo, but that's really not part of the project. Plus the giraffe on the far right has some sort of spline problem that's pinching his neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Congratulations, Joe - I'm surprised you have any time at all to be making giraffes. Your giraffe looks great - I know from my experience that I find the exercises really hard, but about the third time I do it, I wonder what I was fussing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heather Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Name: heather Exercise 11 Date Completed: 11-13-06 [attachmentid=22239] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heather Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Exercise 11 Name: Heather Date Completed 11/13/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted November 14, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted November 14, 2006 Heather, If you read this... can you post your Giraffe from another angle? The current angle makes his neck look really short. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetanman Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Everytime I do this tutorial it says that you should switch to the front view. There is no front view of the giraffe. Am I doing something wrong because I can't finish this tutorial if there is no front view. All I have is the side and top view of the giraffe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 The side view of the giraffe is the only rotoscope in this exercise. The top view is just for adding a decal at the end of the exercise. When you switch to the front view, you don't need the rotoscope - you know what a giraffe looks like from the front, so you can make him fatter or thinner depending on how you want him to look. The side rotoscope gives you the difficult proportions. You should also be turning your model to look at it, and the rotoscope will not show then either. This is a very long exercise that teaches you many things about modelling, so take your time, and you'll get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfortunato Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Name: Michael Fortunato Exercises Completed: Eleven-Giraffe Date Completed: Monday, January 16, 2007 Instructor: Das Book Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: I had to step away from this for a day or two and then come back to it. Attaching the legs, at first, was really difficult. But forcing myself to do it, really helped me to see in "3D". So that I could see when and where I needed to connect points. Switching back and forth between wireframe and shaded/wireframe was instrumental to finishing this project. NOTE: I'm apparently on a sepia tone kick. First the fighter plane and now the giraffe. I didn't "age" this photo, though. This program really is a joy to work with. I can't wait to finish these exercises and begin working on my own project. - Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmf3d3d Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Name: Jeremiah M. Faries Exercise Completed: #11: Giraffe Date Completed: Jan 22, 2007 Remarks: Modeling is addictive. The book's instructions are very good, especially for the spatially complex task of attaching legs. Leaving us on our own to do the ears and horns was good pedagogy . It was, more or less, a breeze except for two minor problems. First, copy-flip-attach failed because the spline wasn't perfectly aligned, but dabbling in 11.5 helped because it explained how to line up an entire spline. The other problem I had was applying the decals. I read somewhere about flattening an image so that the decal doesn't stretch as it rounds corners. I now see why. I didn't flatten the Giraffe, but I see that I should figure that out in the future. I had some trouble matching the top decal to the side, but the irregularity of the Giraffe' s spots help hide this. I also noticed that the 5-point patches appear to have newton rings in the choreography and model window but they render fine. Is this typical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted January 23, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted January 23, 2007 Jeremiah, Thanks for the feedback on this one. Going in reverse here: I also noticed that the 5-point patches appear to have newton rings in the choreography and model window but they render fine. Is this typical?I'd say this is typical but I don't recall it always being like that. You have to watch 5 point patches closely and where possible I'd suggest keeping them small and as unobtrusive as possible. Where you can you can even hide them. One thing to watch out for is inverted normals. If your normals are inverted you'll see artifacts. (Not unlike the ones you are showing) The book's instructions are very good, especially for the spatially complex task of attaching legs. Leaving us on our own to do the ears and horns was good pedagogy . I echo your compliment. Hash Inc has put this exercise together really well. Especially considering all that spline work doesn't give up easily to being presented on paper. I have high hopes that we'll develop a video tutorial on our favorite giraffe fairly soon. Mostly what it will take is capturing screens while we build him. Once the video is in place Exerise 11.5 would be the defacto challenge in organic modeling to master. It was, more or less, a breeze except for two minor problems. First, copy-flip-attach failed because the spline wasn't perfectly aligned, but dabbling in 11.5 helped because it explained how to line up an entire spline. You are right and hopefully we'll get the whole Copy/Flip/Attach nailed down for everybody. It'll probably yield more than one page PDF but we'll investigate. The basic concept could fit on one page. The other problem I had was applying the decals. I read somewhere about flattening an image so that the decal doesn't stretch as it rounds corners. I now see why. I didn't flatten the Giraffe, but I see that I should figure that out in the future. I had some trouble matching the top decal to the side, but the irregularity of the Giraffe' s spots help hide this Sometimes its important to do things wrong (or not optimally) a few times. That'll make the lessons sink in. That sounds like what is happening in your case. Decaling is another area we can document as we investigate. Again, thanks for the feedback on this one. I hope everyone going through TaoA:M is taking good notes. You'll see all this later on the test. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael, I still continue to be a fan of your sepia work. For those interested in creating the effect in A:M investigate 'Post Effects'. Great job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmf3d3d Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Sometimes its important to do things wrong (or not optimally) a few times. That'll make the lessons sink in. Yes, I strongly believe in the value of "messing up"... something I'm actually quite good at. And I'd also like to express my gratitude to Rodney and the several other folks (Caroline, Leo, Dhar, mfortunato) who routinely take the time to download these attempts and provide feedback and encouragement to those of us plowing through these exercises. You all are doing a good thing! --jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted January 23, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted January 23, 2007 Yes, I strongly believe in the value of "messing up"... something I'm actually quite good at. lol Moderation in all things there Jerry! Aren't we fortunate to have an interest where the repercussions of messing up aren't very severe? I echo the praise for those who take the time to provide feedback, suggestions and support along the way. Some of the most rewarding times you'll have with A:M are when you are working with others. When you are having as much fun as we are its hardly a job. Still, it can be a lot of hard work and I recognize it takes part of everyone's valuable time. I salute all here whose contributions (big or small) help our collective effort in mastering computer animation. You more than anything are the reason I'm here. As for me... I still come with the box. Rodney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj2 Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Name: Al Jolly Exercise Completed: #11: Giraffe Date Completed: Feb 04, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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