MJL Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 In the early 60's Stanley Mouse (Miller) was responsible for a large portion of the San Francisco concert posters at the Fillmore, the Carousel Ballroom, and the Winterland concert posters. He became closely associated with the Grateful Dead and did a ton of artwork for them as well. His early stuff had a very strong art nouveau influence. I've decided to emulate his style for my website imagery and have been playing around with the style. this is my first image. This is a jpg conversion of a TGA rendering from A:M. I'm having a problem getting crisp edges on the imagery (I'm using Corel Photo Paint X3). There are a lot of image specialists here on the forum, and I was wondering if anyone could give me some hints as to how to the crisp imagery that I'm after. Thank You in advance for any help. Myron Quote
Luuk Steitner Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Does the image come blurred like this from A:M? Is it a 3D model? You could render a larger version so you have better control in your paint application. When you have the look you like scale it down and make it a JPEG, that should always be the last step. Quote
MJL Posted September 14, 2009 Author Posted September 14, 2009 It is a 3d model. I'll try scaling it up and see what happens. Thanks, Luuk EDIT: Still Blurry Quote
Luuk Steitner Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 What kind of material did you use for this model? Did you use glow? Is depth of field turned off? Quote
MJL Posted September 14, 2009 Author Posted September 14, 2009 I zoomed in and rendered just a corner. It's closer to a cleaner image. Quote
MJL Posted September 14, 2009 Author Posted September 14, 2009 No material, no glow, and I'm not sure where to turn depth of field on or off the colors are just various "group" surface diffuse colors Nothing else Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted September 14, 2009 Hash Fellow Posted September 14, 2009 render at a larger res and scale down in photoshop. Like double the res you were using. Quote
MJL Posted September 14, 2009 Author Posted September 14, 2009 Thanks, Rob. I doubled the res like you suggested and it helped a lot Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted September 14, 2009 Hash Fellow Posted September 14, 2009 that's beautiful. it's so painterly i'd have thought it was done with some sort of a brush in PS Quote
MJL Posted September 14, 2009 Author Posted September 14, 2009 Thank You, Rob. I can work better manipulating cp's than I can using my mouse in my image programs. I like it in 3d because the ridges stand out. I've got quite a bit of time in it but I hope to improve my technique and cut the time down. I don't really care about the patch count because it's just imagery. I'm gonna work on lighting it next to hopefully bring out the highlights. " I love the flow of Art Nouveau" Quote
*A:M User* Shelton Posted September 14, 2009 *A:M User* Posted September 14, 2009 Nicely done!! Steve Quote
MJL Posted September 20, 2009 Author Posted September 20, 2009 Here is the finished Entry Page for my website overhaul. I wanted an "Old Time" feel invoking the kind of feeling you get when you see a piece of machinery made in the late 19th or early 20th century. Antique from the time when things were made with quality and meant to last. Pretty high goal, I know, but I'm pretty happy with this image. Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted September 20, 2009 Hash Fellow Posted September 20, 2009 Hallelujah! Quote
MJL Posted September 22, 2009 Author Posted September 22, 2009 That first image I used a rotoscope from an image I got off the net. This one was made from scratch. Experimenting with materials as well. I'll add more to this one, but I'm happy thus far. Quote
MJL Posted September 29, 2009 Author Posted September 29, 2009 Playing with Materials, Splinage, and just plain having fun! Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted September 29, 2009 Hash Fellow Posted September 29, 2009 very beautiful! Quote
MJL Posted September 30, 2009 Author Posted September 30, 2009 Thank You, Robert. Thanks, Gene, smooth is my middle name. (Well, actually its Mergatroyd but that's another post entirely.) And Thank You, Nancy, that means a lot coming from the mistress of gorgeousnessous. (Thanks for the comments on FB, too. Congrats on your "needs it or not" task.) Quote
maddle Posted September 30, 2009 Posted September 30, 2009 I love it ! Bravo !! very "café montmartre" !! when i was a kid (still i am) i use to watch this programme nemed "Histoire sans parole" means story without words, i m sure it can inspire you ! that is the generic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElQyiM_QeYY Quote
Admin Rodney Posted October 1, 2009 Admin Posted October 1, 2009 Wow Myron. This is great stuff. Looking Good! Quote
*A:M User* Shelton Posted October 1, 2009 *A:M User* Posted October 1, 2009 Myron Very nice. I was looking to do something like this on the opening credits with Cupid. Excellent work Steve Quote
Paul Forwood Posted October 1, 2009 Posted October 1, 2009 Cool stuff, Myron! Looks like you've got yourself a jewellery business. Quote
MJL Posted October 4, 2009 Author Posted October 4, 2009 You guy's are probably getting tired of these, but just a couple more. I'll try not to be too much of a nuisance. Quote
TheSpleen Posted October 4, 2009 Posted October 4, 2009 I like the right one best. And nothing AM is a nuisance lol It is amazing what all can be done as you are showing us. Quote
largento Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 I think these are really cool-looking, Myron! Quote
MJL Posted October 10, 2009 Author Posted October 10, 2009 Art Nouveau derived from following organic flows and forms found in nature. I've been playing with a style of graphic art that I used to do by hand many, many years ago. Don't know why mushrooms fascinated me so, but I was drawing these years before I found out that mushrooms were desired for more that just their beauty. I went through the Sweepers tutorial yesterday, wow, what a tool! Will save me hours of modeling time. This image is a WIP, there's one more cluster and some accents to go, but it's starting to shape up. Quote
NancyGormezano Posted October 10, 2009 Posted October 10, 2009 Fabulous stuff! I love your Art Nouveau style - Quote
MJL Posted October 10, 2009 Author Posted October 10, 2009 Thanks Nancy, That means a lot, coming from you. Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted October 10, 2009 Hash Fellow Posted October 10, 2009 lovely 'shrooms! Quote
MJL Posted October 10, 2009 Author Posted October 10, 2009 thankd You David and Rob, Tried to finish up tonight, but I got the nods. Just a few polishing up details left. I 'll finish it up tomorrow. Quote
MJL Posted October 10, 2009 Author Posted October 10, 2009 Finished, for now, will revisit and refine, after some time passes. I'm happy with the general concept, but still need lots of tweaking to get it where I want it to go. I still can't decide which background looks best on this one. Quote
NancyGormezano Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 I still can't decide which background looks best on this one. If you want to keep the art nouveau look - then the black background is the way to go. The white has a more tooney feel. The blue is bleh. A different blue (more turquoisey, more vibrant, maybe with a green-turquoise gradient) might work, if you are wanting something "naturalish but still arty". And then of course - you might try a coppery, or a regal red, or a deep purple or a deep rich forest green background - or variations that include gradients of those colors if you want high impact. Quote
TheSpleen Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 He's making tea I think. explains alot really. Quote
*A:M User* Shelton Posted October 11, 2009 *A:M User* Posted October 11, 2009 Wow nice job Myron. I love the look of the black background the best. Steve Quote
MJL Posted October 11, 2009 Author Posted October 11, 2009 Thanks, Shelton. I like the black, too, usually it pops the image out, but this time it seemed to pull it back in for some reason. Ok, I'll blame all these on Nancy. But this tea is really quite good. Would you care for a cup, Gene? Ms Gormezano? I know, I know, I'm getting sick of this one too (maybe it's the tea), last ones I promise. But it is amazing how the background color affects the image. Of them all, the neutral Taupe one seems to me to strike the right balance. Quote
steve392 Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 I like the Orange one best but the Green and Taupe a good second,Just my opinion Quote
NancyGormezano Posted October 11, 2009 Posted October 11, 2009 Hmmmm...I hope you don't mind - but I couldn't resist. It's not clear how your mushers will be used on your web site: full page? added as accents only ? with text ?, other imagery? So I played - assuming it's a background for a page with some text. Hope this is food for thought when you come back to this. I liked the black & grey/taupe backgrounds to start (I used grey) - here's what adding color does (deeper, richer, more complex mixtures). Color always plays on feel rather than logic. Quote
MJL Posted October 12, 2009 Author Posted October 12, 2009 Wow, Nancy, great stuff. Making the mushroom image was actually the goal in itself. It was the electronic version of some art pencil sketching I did many years ago. I just wanted to see if I could reproduce it now that I'm starting to get a handle on modeling. It came out much better that I had hoped. I wasn't necessarily going to use it on the website per se, but now I may have to find a place for it somewhere. Quote
MJL Posted February 5, 2010 Author Posted February 5, 2010 I've gone back and finished up this image to be closer to the original vision I started with. It has been a learning experience working with materials and bumpmaps (TURN MULTIPASS ON!) I think other versions of the vase will reappear in other imagery. I like the Raku feel. EDIT: Here is the model if anyone would like to use it. Squat_Vase.mdl Quote
NancyGormezano Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 I love the raku feel as well and design of the vase - beautiful! And I love the flourishy organic thingies poouring out of the vase - wonderful! But my feeling is that the neon green flat coloring and look of the "ribbons" doesn't match the coloring, 3D dimensionality of the jar. Perhaps a more unsaturated copper tarnish or antique gold or malachite or brushed tarnished silver for the ribbons (if you want contrast with the jar) might look good? Or even making jar & ribbons same material? Love the designs. Quote
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