MixePix Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 I'm doing a short with some references to nordic mythology and are at the moment working with a poster/promo image. As for one of the elements in the poster i created this cg-version of Oden. The textures still need some more work but I'm pretty happy with the 'evilness' of his appearance so I just wanted to share... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckbat Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 How come no beard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshB Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 I like the image. Like the character. Textures are terrific. But, it doesn't come across with the presence of a god-figure. He seems more like an imp--Scrappy Doo vs. Scooby Doo. That's my only criticism though. For me, it just doesn't read as Oden. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jaqe Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 I have to say I both disagree and agree with Josh. He doesn't seem all "god-like", BUT numerous nordic Gods don't look like gods when you first look at them. I agree, he doesn't look all god-y, but Im not sure if this guy SHOULD looky all god-y, as I mentioned above. And btw, I agree with Josh on a few more things: textures are great, the model looks awsome and boy, he's creepy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginsdj Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 The smile doesn't look right. I think it is the corners of the mouth - they are too round and smooth and the upper lip at the corner of the mouth seems to be bent under leaving that shadow area. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 If that's how evil Óđinn looks, I can't imagine what you've done with Loki! Nice modeling, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyGormezano Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 I don't care if he looks like Oden or not - it is an absolutely stunning model with plenty of sinister, creepy peasant-type sorcerer personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixePix Posted April 2, 2005 Author Share Posted April 2, 2005 Thanks for the comments everyone! I tried to put some beard on him at first but I thought he looked meaner without so I just put that hair-thing under his chin instead. He doesn't look like the typical god but It's like Mr. Jaqe said I'm not really after that kind of look Hmm, his smile maybe looks weird. I'll take another look at it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 I just looked in. That's excellent. Is it part of a whole working character? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Forwood Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 That's a great character but the chin is too young compared with the rest of the face. Nice work, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 Excellent model. I especially like the cloth. What type of light set up did you use? I'd love to see the lighting from underneath to give him more of a menacing appearance. Looking forward to more updates... Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginsdj Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Just to emphasise what I was refering to re the mouth and smile - see attached. The corners of the mouth (blue) are too rounded - they should be pulled to an acute angle. The 'crease' in skin is too long and in general is caused by the skin being pulled tight over the teeth but the teeth/upper jaw shape is not wide enough to cause this shape and in any case would not go all the way to the cheek crease. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Model looks great. I've studied Nordic Myth since I was 11. My favorite of all mythologies. Odin was known to wonder the earth as a normal looking man from time to time. This could be that manifestation of him. Don't know about the teeth though. They make him look more like Loki than an Odin to me. I mean as the leader of the gods he should have some level of "Magnitude" to him.. even in his wondering guise. I agree about the beard as well. Traditionally Odin has one. His wondering look has a less full beard.. more like a Magician or illusionist than a full on Viking beard. How bout a patch for the eye? I like the stiches, but the patch might make him look more "evil" Save this guy though.. he's a good starting point for loki. I hope you're doing a Thor. I'd like to see him. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 I made an image showing what I was talking about. but thought better of posting it on your thread. Let me know if you want to see it and I'll email the link to you. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixePix Posted April 3, 2005 Author Share Posted April 3, 2005 Thanks for all your nice comments! KenH: It will be a full character in the end but at them moment it's just the face. Paul Forwood: I agree. I will put some more wrinkles to it. Mega: The light setup is pretty simple. I used Skycast and then just one keylight. Actually I tried to lit it from beneath but it looked weird somehow. I might get it to work if I put in some more lights though. higginsdj: I think you might be right! I will make some changes. cfree68f: An eyepatch? Didn't thought of that but I will give it a shot! The reason for his appearance (with teeth and all) is that I've read that Odin (I wrote Oden as it spells that way in Swedish) has two faces. One peaceful that he shows to his allies and one horrific that he shows to his enemies. I therefore tried to create a face that starts out peaceful but turns evil as it smiles. Beneath is the peaceful look. I might make a model out of Thor but probably not Loki. I promise to put a big beard on Thor thought. I would love to see your image btw! Thanks for taking the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshB Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 It would be a little bit more peaceful if the eye wasn't still the yellow color (if this is something you plan on doing disregard). Given your description there is a scene from Princess Mononoke where the main character gets upset and the background starts to change color--and so does his skin color. Just a thought. "Magnitude" to him Good word. That's what I was looking for. Thanks for that Colin. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancho simpson Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 hmmm, that's a damn good model, hey, how about a white eye? that could do one of two things: 1.Make him look like a zombie (not good) 2.Make him look like a god and add a bit of that ¨magnitude¨ bear in mind that i know nothing about nordic mythology, but i think that this could work PS. if you do do the white eye thing add some glow to it. later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godfrey Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 hmmm, that's a damn good model, hey, how about a white eye? Óđinn (Odin, Oden, Wodin, Wotan...) plucked out his eye and cast it into Mímr's well in exchange for wisdom, so MixePix's sewed-up empty socket is quite fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixePix Posted April 3, 2005 Author Share Posted April 3, 2005 Actually I'm thinking of giving him some kind of particle aura when he makes his appearance which will change color after his mood. Changing the eye-color is a good idea though. I think I'll do that as well. I started out with a white eye but I think it's better with the current one. The advantage with an actual eye is that he can pinpoint his victim with his stare. Uhm, don't know if that makes any sense at all...:/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jaqe Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 I started out with a white eye but I think it's better with the current one. The advantage with an actual eye is that he can pinpoint his victim with his stare. Uhm, don't know if that makes any sense at all...:/ It does to me. Picture this: He steps out of a small house, looks at a local warlord, whom he doesn't like... at all, and then all of a sudden *zapp!!*, the warlord is struck by lightning! Maybe that wasn't exactly what you ment, but I let my imagination do a little jumping, but I do belive I know what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msfolly Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Personally, I liked the grin with the pointed teeth in the first picture. His creepy smile is unsettling and very creepy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbert_Zero Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Personally, I liked the grin with the pointed teeth in the first picture. His creepy smile is unsettling and very creepy. read the other posts. i was thinking what u were thinking to but hes going to make a transition between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixie Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Very nice attention to detail, I know little about odin as is written but as a model it looks good to me! As your strengths seem to be in the detail, perhaps adding more variation in skin tone and perhaps some eyelashes? that bad eye might be a little more swollen, bruised and generally nastier looking perhaps? Personally id be very proud of what you already have though. been playing alot of resident evil 4 recently, looking at this post made me want to reach for a shotgun! Regards - Nixie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbert_Zero Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 been playing alot of resident evil 4 recently, looking at this post made me want to reach for a shotgun! Regards - Nixie lol me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixePix Posted April 4, 2005 Author Share Posted April 4, 2005 ups, eyelashes! Forgot that you have those.. I'm not really satisfied with the stitches either so I will experiment a little. Maybe try out Collins suggestion with an eye-patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajcedrv Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Amazing textures. Good model. Contradicting popular opinion I really liked pointed teeth (not that I would like to meet this Odin in the street though) Anyway, (allthough I am not an expert) I've always had the feeling that even the "Good" nordic gods are not that good in the christian sense of the word, so this look is probably very very appropriate. I would love to see your Thor (and Loki ) Some wireframes would be really nice GREAT, can't wait to see the animation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnArtbox Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Great looking model. Lke a few of the other posters I always expect a beard. The ravens and the spear/staff(can't remember which at the moment) are the other symbols I think of with Odin...depends on how traditional you want to be. Looking forward to more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaver Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I think your Oðinn model is great and I think it's more fun to see your interpretation of how he looks than yet another traditional viking image. Traditionally Oðinn is painted with a large beard together with his ravens Huginn and Muninn and his wolves Gere and Freke. Oðinn also has a horse with eight legs, Sleipnir. He carries his spear, Gungnir, which is known to never miss it's target and he has a magic golden bangle, Draupnir. <SWEDISH> Dessutom borde väl vi svenskar veta bäst hur Oden verkligen ska se ut </SWEDISH> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyGormezano Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I'm not really satisfied with the stitches either so I will experiment a little. Maybe try out an eye-patch. ohhh - I thought the stiches were an excellent touch, would hate to see them go... more intriguing to me than an eye patch..don't sell out just because something is difficult (even tho that's what I do all the time) Perhaps you might make the stitched eye area more flat - when someone has lost an eye -I believe the socket sinks, ....perhaps the area should have a darker, "greener" discoloration as an indication of unhealthy tissue? But to me the image/character is GREAT just the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixePix Posted April 5, 2005 Author Share Posted April 5, 2005 trajcedrv: Here's a wire just for you. JohnArtbox: Well I thought that I'd be a little progressive at first but the beard-thing seems to be important. Collin sent me an image with some suggestion so I will play with it for a while and see if I can increase his facial hair a little. The birds and the spear will be in the movie though. aaver: Ja precis! Vi borde ju räknas som auktoriteter på området! NancyGormezano: nice to hear that you liked the stitches. I'm not sure about the eye-patch yet. Just thought I would at least try the idea out and see if it worked.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajcedrv Posted April 12, 2005 Share Posted April 12, 2005 Thank you for the wireframe... incidentally, I thought that I no thank you note was necessary, but ... no update for such a long time ?!? I'm just joking... keep on the good work and thanks again... trajcedrv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 Wow, great looking model. The textures are really looking good. I think I myself would like to see more facial hair, but I love your interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jaqe Posted April 13, 2005 Share Posted April 13, 2005 MixePix: don't you try'n sneak of and use sweedish with us norwegians arround! Besides, we were the best Vikings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trajcedrv Posted September 15, 2005 Share Posted September 15, 2005 I just had to resurface this topic! I keep wondering what happened to the project which started so amazingly? Any news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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