agep Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Just started modelling the McLaren, and have a long way to go I also seems to have some problems with the porcelain material (It don't like the 5p patch), is there a solution for that? Any commets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginsdj Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 For porcelain your normals have to be facing out and then you may still have to save, close and reopen the project for it to display correctly (only an issue after it is first applied) Looking good so far Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 The Mclaren rocks! Fastest production car ever released! Oh I don't know jack about the porcelain material and I can see it really jacked your model up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 Thanks There where a few normals i overlooked. Here is a update (the porcelain still makes som funny stuff, but I believe I need a lot of tweaking) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 but I believe I need a lot of tweaking Uhh that doesn't sound right. But why do you use the porcelain material? what does it do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginsdj Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Porcelain does a final smoothing of a model - ideal for organic models - perhaps not the best solution for mechanical models. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Reynolds Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I need a lot of tweaking The motto of anyone who has modelled exterior automotive surfaces in A:M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 tweaking I thought that meant some kind of fine adjustment of the cp... Or? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmech Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Speaking as someone whos is working on a car (and not one totally real) - yeah welcome to tweaksville! Also, be careful about saving and versioning, your patch count is going to get HIGH. Tweaking in the manner of just getting smooth surfaces, making normals flip the right way, fixing bad CP intersections... Looks good so far though, I'll be interested to see how it progresses. I had a lot of consternation around the wheelwells myself. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Reynolds Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I thought that meant some kind of fine adjustment of the cp... Or? It also refers to adjusting the bias values of the splines to obtain realistically smooth surfaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 progression: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Nice looking so far. Do you know that there is some kind of line sticking out of the door on each side? Maybe you did that on purpose, but if you didn't just thought I'd bring that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eos Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Cool car! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacktaich Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 For realistic car modeling, you have to model the car how it would be built, as in seperate plates. You're lucky to have some really good reference that shows you where the plates are. Seperate them and bevel in the edges. Good luck! Zack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 For realistic car modeling, you have to model the car how it would be built, as in seperate plates. I'm planning to do that. Want to get the overall shape of the body first, then I'll detach the plates. Here is an new update (the material is just for testing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmech Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Very good so far! I'm very aggravated that yours is so much better than mine. I am now telepathically sending a virus to your PC ::mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:: So there! In all seriousness, how will you build in the wheelwell - separate piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 I am now telepathically sending a virus to your PC ::mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm:: The virus bounces back from my thick skull that is in front of my pc In all seriousness, how will you build in the wheelwell - separate piece? Actually I don't know. I do every thing step by step, not knowing what sort of obstacles I might encounter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 and here is an update of the rear end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisThom Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 Hey Stian, Forgive my ignorance but since I'm not familiar with it do you have any other refrence images of this car. I would just like to see how the original looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 23, 2005 Author Share Posted February 23, 2005 here is a photography Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 Progression (the material is just for testing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 Progression (the material is just for testing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 Building a car! I was bored so I made a wireframe render from every backupsaving I have done for the car (kind of step by step). Then I made a little movie See how I'm building this car! build.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTalbotski Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 The car model is progressing VERY nicely! That car looks fast! The movie of your progress was fun amd interesting to see. Thanks! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higginsdj Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Lookign very good Stian. Movie was an interesting take. I wonder how it would look with each frame being a shaded version rather than wireframe? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted February 24, 2005 Share Posted February 24, 2005 Not to shabby! And I mean that with great respect! You've gotten really far considering you are doing it in one piece. I see some dimpling here and there. You could probably get rid of that by modelling it in pieces. Modelling the panels seperate allows you to only use the splines you need. Add more when you need them and take them away when you don't. Right now you're carrying to many splines all the way back along the body. This makes it allot harder to make a smooth surface. You're doing great though. Go man Go! C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 Update Have been separating parts.. still many bumps, but that will be taken care of later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmech Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dude that is starting to look seriously good! How about an update on the wireframe? Windshield looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfree68f Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Now you're cooking with gas! very cool. Check out my mat for metal fleck on my cooper wip post. C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Forwood Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Man there are alot of cars in production at the moment! This one is looking mighty fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbert_Zero Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 dang that looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshB Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Stian you are a man with WAY too much time on your hands. Very nice. I have not tried my hand at mechanical modeling yet--as I find it supremely more difficult than organics. So I know this is a tasking progression. Love the build movie--that was really having too much time on your hands. However, incorporate that then fade to the finished model, then spin it, and zoom off and that would be a fun little thing. Again, good job and much respect. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Stian you are a man with WAY too much time on your hands. I.... just... cant... put... A:M... away.. Thanks for the great comments Here is a wireframe on the car.. remember I'm not finished with reducing splines, so the is a splinemess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Here is a new update on the body I also have a question: The doors have 2 hinges (see the small image), how do i rig that wiyh bones???? pls help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamagica Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Start the pivot of the bone from where the hinge runs down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 They look to me like suicide doors. Shouldn't they open the other way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 this is how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshB Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 They look like regular hinges to me so...if you have your angle right you should only need one bone for the entire door. Start the bone at the body where hinge actually rotates and put it in the angle that the actually hinge would be. Assign the entire door to the hinge and it should give the illusion of there being two hinges. Or--the hard way--but a man with your time this shouldn't be difficult. Start the bone at the mirror on the top part of the hinge. End the bone at the top hinge (the side near the windshield). Point the roll handle away from the car, assign all cps to the bone. Then just rotate on Z to open and close the door. J hope that made sense edit: added image just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Aha! Thanks Josh.. That made sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshB Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 The corner of the door is entering the car at the top...but beyond that...as Robin Williams once said...one is glad to be of service. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 The corner of the door is entering the car at the top Yeah.. I know.. It was just done in a hurry to test out the method Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jaqe Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 dude... that's the sexies car I ever saw!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwarsguy Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Has anyone said that that's amazing yet?! I love it! So sleek! Two thumbs up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 Thanks for the comments Here are a new test (the materials are still just for testing). Still MUCH to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted March 2, 2005 Author Share Posted March 2, 2005 and the rear end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmech Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Arrrgh! it's awesome! I refuse to race your car with mine I know yer just playing with the materials so far, but the metal looks like shiny plastic. Take a look at Colins base metal material in the materials laboratory project file at http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12486 I used it to make the silver on my gauges on the dog car and it worked real nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwarsguy Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 That's amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacktaich Posted March 3, 2005 Share Posted March 3, 2005 That looks great. Try moving the camera down a little bit so the car doesn't look like a toy (it's not bad right now, it could just be a little better). With a little bit of the gear underneath, so you can see the other tires through the cracks and a good scene and good lighting that will look really awesome. Zack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted March 10, 2005 Author Share Posted March 10, 2005 NEW UPDATES! no materials this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agep Posted March 10, 2005 Author Share Posted March 10, 2005 open doors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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