Eric2575 Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 I saw a redesigned 1701 on the web created by a very talented Star Trek fan and wanted to recreate it in Animation Master. I'll have to find the original web site in order to credit the author, but for now I'm just gonna post my progress. I know it's been done upteen times, but I'm a space junkie and always wanted to try my hand at the old girl. Enjoy. Quote
T-Dogg Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 I am sooooo jealous! That is shaping up to be one beautiful model. Keep up the good work!!! Quote
Eric2575 Posted February 9, 2008 Author Posted February 9, 2008 Thanks T-Dogg, I'm gonna put a lot of detail into this one. Quote
tbenefi33 Posted February 9, 2008 Posted February 9, 2008 Ahhhhh cool that looks good can't wait to see the finish project. Quote
Julian Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 I saw a redesigned 1701 on the web created by a very talented Star Trek fan and wanted to recreate it in Animation Master. I'll have to find the original web site in order to credit the author, but for now I'm just gonna post my progress. You're thinking of the design by Gabe Koerner, right? Quote
Eric2575 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Posted February 10, 2008 Yes, that's the design I saw, but your link has pics I've never seen before. What a treasure of references. This will make the modeling a bit easier, thanks. Also a big thanks to Gabe for the inspiration. Quote
agep Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 Great start! Smooth modeling! Can you share a wireframe? Quote
agep Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 Sure thing, here ya go.Thanks! It looks very clean. Kudos Quote
Admin Rodney Posted February 11, 2008 Admin Posted February 11, 2008 Oooo... I like! Interestingly that image (the lines at least) looks a lot better at low resolution than it does larger. The toon lines in the larger full images don't appear as crisp which might be preferred in a mechanical model. My thoughts usually run the opposite as I'm always looking for more variation in toon lines. In this case though the crisp lines would be ideal. Something I've never had confirmed by others but seems to work well for me is to increase the line width a little and render to a larger format (VistaVision or whatever that one is called). Then resample to a lower resolution. For some reason that keeps nice crisp lines where the smaller render doesn't. Only a few years ago producers of the animated Star Trek series would have been giving you a call on the phone to borrow your model. Very nice economy of splines too! Quote
KenH Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 Real nice. You're really getting the hang of this modeling lark. Quote
Eric2575 Posted February 13, 2008 Author Posted February 13, 2008 Thanks Ken Been working on the aft part of the main hull and it's giving me a bit of a fit. No worries, just about got it licked. For an interlude, I started working on the decals of the ship. So far, I'm very pleased with the results. Don't mind the unfinished parts of the model, I'll get to them tomorrow. Me thinks it's shaping up nicely. Quote
Eric2575 Posted February 15, 2008 Author Posted February 15, 2008 Thank you Mark. Nice job on your project, I've been following it along with everyone else. Can't wait for some animation from you. I've been working on the main body and have actually redone it twice due to spline layout and such, but am still not happy with it. I'm also not sold on the radar dish up front. I may divert from the Koerner design and improvise a bit. Anyways, here is a test of the engines. Quote
Darkwing Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 is it just me, or does that look a lot like the model that was released a few weeks ago to be one of the three proposed designs for the new movie enterprise? if it is, you're doing a great job modeling from such ackward images. and if not, well, it's still really awesome. one thing i'd like to know is how you did the ship lights. Quote
Eric2575 Posted February 16, 2008 Author Posted February 16, 2008 I haven't seen the designs for the new movie. Do you have a link? The lights on the saucer are produced by a simple high resolution ambiance decal. See an example of such a decal in the second post of this thread: http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showt...=ambiance+decal If you want specific details, send me a private message - or if more people are interested, then I may post a tutorial here. Quote
Eric2575 Posted April 7, 2009 Author Posted April 7, 2009 Since the new Trek movie is coming out soon, I started to work on my Enterprise again. I lost all model parts except the saucer section and the engines due to a drive malfunction. Just as well since I did not like the way the body section was evolving. Here is a sample of the revisited WIP. Quote
largento Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Hey, Eric! Sorry to hear about your lost drive! I've become pretty obsessive about backing up since I lost that drive last year. It's still biting me. Just last week I was looking for some video tutorial files for another application that I had bought only to realize that I had bought them right before the crash and since so much time had passed, I had to repurchase them. What do you think of the new Enterprise design from the movie? I'm trying to like it, but I don't think the changes were positive or necessary. The nacelles are too close together and I don't like the giant numbers on the saucer section. Quote
TheSpleen Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Yea and the bathrooms are are really small. Just sayin' Quote
bighop Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Very cool! Are the lights on the hull decals or lights? Quote
Chopper Al Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Great job on the Enterprise Eric. As for the Enterprise in the new movie, not really impressed with it, inside or out. The original Enterprise was classy and elegant. In my opinion, this new Enterprise doesn't even come close to the old one. But that's just me. Al Quote
Jaff Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Great looking Job Eric, I wolud like to join Mr. Spoke there Saludos desde México... Quote
PeterS Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 When the first few glimpses of the new Enterprise came out, I was thrown by the funky redesign of the nacelles with the addition of the small wings? ailerons? in the rear of the pods and as mentioned the closer angle of the dangle, ha, ha. Me no likey either. Any of Gabriel Koerner's designs would have been much better than what we will get now. As far as the interior is concerned, I get the feeling that this new Enterprise is about 50 years ahead of the original. The layout and design looks so much more advanced to me - well maybe not the spooky hallways. When the BMW Z4 roadster first came out, I thought, what were they thinking (no flames from Z4 owners please). Kind of the same feeling I got when looking at the new Enterprise. Oh well, maybe I'll come up with my own design for the old girl and model that for fun. Quote
Eric2575 Posted April 8, 2009 Author Posted April 8, 2009 Thank you for all your support and encouragement. bighoop: The lights are just one simple decal applied in a pose and set to ambiance intensity. This was just a test and will look much better once I tweak it and make different decals. Largento: I have a sneaky suspicion that my laptop drive is about to bite the dust too. Praises about eliminating paper clutter are one thing, but it sure is harder to lose a file cabinet full of paper vs a hard drive with three or four years of data gone in one second. Eric Quote
GizmoMkI Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 Looking good. I've always liked custom designs that are variations on the theme, and could theoretically be a new class. Quote
Eric2575 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Posted April 9, 2009 Did a lot of tweaking to the main hull and rear shuttle bay. Here's a desktop with a NASA background. Enjoy. Quote
Chopper Al Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 Looking really good Eric. Although, is there a bit of wrinkling in the secondary hull near the starboard nacelle support? I just this minute figured out why the TOS Enterprise looks so differently than the new movie Enterprise. It all has to do with Picard going back to stop the Borg in First Contact. He inadvertently affected the time line, which has rippled through to this new design. Yes, that must be it. I can sleep easier now and may even enjoy the movie when it comes out. Al Quote
Eric2575 Posted April 9, 2009 Author Posted April 9, 2009 Al: Secondary hull? You mean the wrinkles in the nacelle casing, right? Sometimes I get those when I do a copy/flip - for some reason the bias values don't translate the +- values correctly. Will get to that right away. I was going to smooth that out, but was too tired lasty night. Ok, back to the shipyard;-) -E Quote
Chopper Al Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 Hi Mark, The wrinkles that I noticed are circled in red. As far as I knew, the saucer section was called the primary hull, and the lower section with the shuttle bay was called the secondary hull. I could be wrong though. From what I read when I was a kid, the Enterprise was built in parts, those parts lifted into orbit, than assembled. Pretty much like the International Space Station. From what I've been able to figure out, the Enterprise in the new movie is build on Earth, then lifted into orbit. Again, I could be totally wrong on that too. The mind starts losing and confusing facts as one gets older.... Anyway, it is really a great looking model. Al Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted April 9, 2009 Hash Fellow Posted April 9, 2009 Fine looking model! However, I notice in that pic that the clouds are lit from the left while the ship is lit from the right. Quote
NancyGormezano Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 However, I notice in that pic that the clouds are lit from the left while the ship is lit from the right. The clouds are wrong. Flip the clouds. Quote
Eric2575 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 I should have know not to throw out a quickie without taking into consideration the keen eyes of this discerning audience. I will fix the clouds/lighting issue, but that crease in the hull is not a crease, it's a reflection from somewhere. The hull is smooth as glass. I'll double check though. Quote
Chopper Al Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 but that crease in the hull is not a crease, it's a reflection from somewhere. The hull is smooth as glass. Sorry about that Eric. Al Quote
Eric2575 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Posted April 10, 2009 Al: Please don't ever apologize for giving me your valued input. That line could very well have been a crease that needed attention. You have an excellent eye for detail, and when you give input, I listen Eric p.s. Who is Mark? Ha, ha Quote
Chopper Al Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 p.s. Who is Mark? Ha, ha The mind starts losing and confusing facts as one gets older.... Proves my point... Al (at least I think I am Al) Quote
Eric2575 Posted April 12, 2009 Author Posted April 12, 2009 Changed the clouds and started adding back some of the details. Not much time to work on hobbies these days. Quote
TheSpleen Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 looks great! ever model your own planets and stars? That way you could animate it for us. Quote
Eric2575 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Posted April 18, 2009 Haven't had much time to work on this, but managed to add a few details and changed the sky to match the lighting. I'm gonna add quite a bit more details and start work on the hull maps. Yes, I did play around with modeling stars and planets, but had some problems with the size of the maps required to get the detail I was after. Quote
steve392 Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 Looks good I like the sky as you have it ,oh I have a couple of planet maps you may be able to use Quote
Eric2575 Posted April 20, 2009 Author Posted April 20, 2009 Worked a bit more on this. Shaping the lower hull and playing around with a generic hull decal - which I don't particularly care for - see the right nacelle. Quote
Admin Rodney Posted April 20, 2009 Admin Posted April 20, 2009 Ooo! That's beautiful. Very cool! Quote
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