Frank Silas Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 I don't think I've posted in the wip before! So here's my first time. Here are two models that I started building recently. I'll keep posting the progress here until they are done. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Dhar Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Hi Frank, nice to see you again. That's some excellent workmanship. Beauty & Brute is exactly what those characters portray. Is this part of a short movie or stills? Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted February 21, 2006 Hash Fellow Posted February 21, 2006 Hey those look good. You're not going to give them tiny bodies, are you? Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 21, 2006 Author Posted February 21, 2006 Hi Dhar, thanks for checking them out. I had not modelled characters in a long while so I'd been hankering to create some brand new characters from scratch. They are going to be part of a scene that combines all the stuff I've learned about 3d in the last few years. Kind of like a personal technology demo. I'm almost done with the bodies so I'll be posting them shortly. Hey Robcat, no they will NOT have tiny bodies! LOL...thier bodies are reasonably proportioned. I've nearly gotten them done. I'll post them soon. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 21, 2006 Author Posted February 21, 2006 More progress. I'm working on completing the bodies and putting clothes on them. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Zaryin Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Hey Frank, love the characters so far. The brute looks like he could use a little cp tweaking, but the female looks pretty good. Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 21, 2006 Author Posted February 21, 2006 Hey Zaryin, thanks for the kind words and suggestion. I've spent a little more time on the female making sure her surfaces are smooth. I need to give the brute a bit more attention. Thanks, Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
c-wheeler Posted February 21, 2006 Posted February 21, 2006 Very nice Frank. Nice facial features- very strong characters I look forward to the finished article and seeing the animation tests Chris Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 22, 2006 Author Posted February 22, 2006 Thanks Chris! I'm making clothes for them at the moment. Frank Silas Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 Here's my progress so far on the girl. I need to spend a bit more time on her so that her muscle structure is more defined. Here's what I have so far. Any comments and crits are welcome. (oh, and she's technically not nude...i did not model any detail in the unmentionable areas...) This is right before the hair and clothes go on.. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
modernhorse Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Frank - Is she in a pose in the screenshot or did you model her with arms down? I'm just curious as I thought conventional wisdom was to model in the T pose. She's looking good. ..doug Quote
luckbat Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Frank, you might consider toning down that upper body. I'm pretty sure a woman's ribcage shouldn't be wider than her pelvis. Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 Modern Horse, You're right...I just hate that T-Pose so much that I didn't do it this time. I took care when modelling the shoulder and underarm area to put in enough splinage so that it should be fine. We'll see. Luckbat, thanks I'll tone it down a bit. ;-) Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Dhar Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 Is that her collar bone or a v-neck sweater in the front view? Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 Yeah, yeah, I'm working on it. That's why it's in the WIP section. That parts been annoying me too Dhar. Frank Silas Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 24, 2006 Author Posted February 24, 2006 I decided to do her hair before doing the clothes. This is a shot of the start of that process as well as a shot of the wire frame for her face. I'm still tweaking her so any comments and crits are welcome. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Zaryin Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 Ugh! THis is one area I don't think I'd be much help with. I love where it's going though. Are you building eack lock and then putting them down, or are you placeing guide splines then putting the locks down? Quote
Dhar Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 Nice hair style. Are you going to fully rig the hair or just enough for subtle movements? Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 24, 2006 Author Posted February 24, 2006 Zaryin, I'm placing guide splines then modelling the hair into the guidespline volume of space. I can get the exact hairstyle I want that way. Dhar, I plan to fully rig it, but then make most of the movement automated. Kind of like the dynamics on the squetchy rig, but leaving me the ability to keyframe whatever I want. I've always wanted to model and animate a girl with long hair. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Zaryin Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 Thanks, Frank. When I make a better hairstyle for mine I'll go with that way. Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 26, 2006 Author Posted February 26, 2006 Almost done with the long hair. Finishing it from front view at this very moment. I'll post that view in a few minutes. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 26, 2006 Author Posted February 26, 2006 Front shots of long hair. Now it's on to making her clothes. Any comments or crits welcome. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Dhar Posted February 26, 2006 Posted February 26, 2006 She's looking fine Frank. There is a little bump/swell at the far end of her collar bone that shouldn't be there, me thinks. Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 27, 2006 Author Posted February 27, 2006 Thanks Dhar, I'll work on smoothing that out. :-) Frank Silas Quote
Zaryin Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 Love the hair. I hope I can get mine to look as well. The breast area seems a little boxy right now. That could probably use a little smoothing. Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 27, 2006 Author Posted February 27, 2006 Hi Zaryin, thanks! I'm sure you can. I'll post some wire frames of it if that helps. I'll work on the breast area a bit too. Thanks for checking it out and giving me feedback. Frank Silas Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 28, 2006 Author Posted February 28, 2006 Spent some time on Brute. I need to really give him muscle definition above the waist since he's not going to be wearing a shirt. Needs more work. Any comments or crits welcome. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 28, 2006 Author Posted February 28, 2006 And here's that shot of the girl with long hair in wire frame. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
MMZ_TimeLord Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 My first thought about the Brute's musculature, is that the area around the shoulder blades needs some definition as well as muscles leading into the neck. I can't see the front very well because of the specularity... can we see a three-quarter shot of his torso from the front? Quote
Paul Forwood Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 It's good to see you posting some new work in here, Frank! Looking forward to seeing where you take these characters. Is it going to be a parody of 'Beauty and the Beast'? Quote
Frank Silas Posted February 28, 2006 Author Posted February 28, 2006 MMZ_TimeLord, I agree with all your assessments in that last post. Here's the quarter view you requested. Thanks for the feedback. I need to use some reference. Paul Forwood, Hi Paul...no it's not a parody on Beauty and the Beast, except maybe the title. I don't want to give away too much as to what the setup is until I post the environment that they are in to this thread, but I will say that they are Pirates! Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
noah brewer Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 The three-quarters view looks great! I can't wait to see more! Pirates... sounds fun. Quote
Paul Forwood Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 I will say that they are Pirates! Arrrrr! They be pirates! That's what they arrrrr! Great! I'll keep watch from the other boat then. Every animation needs a good hook. Quote
MMZ_TimeLord Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Yeah, get an anotomy book for reference... First things I notice is there is very little definition to his abdomen area. Probably should build up that washboard more... get the six-pack going. Second is that his 'pectorials' are not well defined. Again, refernce. The biceps and forearms also need a little more defining... If he's going to be shown without his shirt, it will be very important to convey that musculature. Looks better in the three-quarter though Frank... excellent work so far. I only hope that my first human from scratch can come close! Quote
Zaryin Posted February 28, 2006 Posted February 28, 2006 Collar bones. Other than that I think he is looking awesome. I love pirates! Quote
Frank Silas Posted March 1, 2006 Author Posted March 1, 2006 MMZ_TimeLord, got some reference. Made the changes you suggested. I think I need some rib cage area detail now. Zaryin, yep collar bones were comming. I still need to add more muscle detail. Any comments or crits are welcome and needed. Thanks guys here's the latest screenshot, Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Frank Silas Posted March 1, 2006 Author Posted March 1, 2006 Still adding muscle and underlaying bone detail to torso. Getting ready to add rib cage detail. Frank Silas Quote
3DArtZ Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Looks pretty good Frank! I was actually going to comment that I thought you had too many splines for the detail you had.... but I see what you're doing now that you've started to add the body muscle and detail. Nice stuff. Mike Fitz www.3dartz.com Quote
MMZ_TimeLord Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 Way better.... yeah, a hint of the ribcage and torso side musclulature and some shoulder tweaks and you'll be done... Great job! Quote
jon Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 love the progress you've been making... one minor note: male nipples are usually further apart, more so on an idealized body like this. -jon Quote
Frank Silas Posted March 1, 2006 Author Posted March 1, 2006 Mike, thanks! MMZ_TimeLord, I'll add that tonight. Thank for all the crits and input. Jon, you are right! I'll fix that. I started using some reference of Arnold Schwarzenegger and your nipple width discription matches what I'm looking at. Thanks. :-) Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Admin Rodney Posted March 1, 2006 Admin Posted March 1, 2006 Wow... I blink and you really have progressed! Nothing to critique just enjoying the show. Quote
Zaryin Posted March 1, 2006 Posted March 1, 2006 It's really coming along. I was going to mention the nipples, but jon beat me to it. Quote
Frank Silas Posted March 3, 2006 Author Posted March 3, 2006 Added the changes for more torso detail. Tweaked his body some more. I think I'm finally ready to do clothes for both Beauty and the Brute. I'll post progress for that also. I think the clothes may actually be harder than the body modelling, with the exception of the modelling the heads. Frank Silas http://www.franksilas.com Quote
Frank Silas Posted March 3, 2006 Author Posted March 3, 2006 Alright here's a screenshot of Beauty and the Brute before the clothes. Frank Silas Quote
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