Exercise 5: Take A Walk

[bobkoonce]

Is there any way to erase a post? I put Exercise 4 here by mistake, I put it in the correct place.

[Dhar]

Is there any way to erase a post? I put Exercise 4 here by mistake, I put it in the correct place.

 

You could use the Edit feature and simply delete the words.

[bobkoonce]

You could use the Edit feature and simply delete the words.

 

I tried your suggestion and when I deleted all the text I was told I needed to enter some text

before I could post it modified.

[bobkoonce]

Exercise 5 Completed

 

Name: Bob Koonce

 

Exercise Completed: Exercise 5: Take a Walk

 

Date Completed:3-8-06

 

Instructor: None at this time

 

Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: None at this time

 

Any comments will be appreciated, Good or Bad

 

Thankx,

Bob Koonce

[Leo73]

Great job Bob. I like the secondary action that you put on the head and ears. You are really tearing through these exercises.

 

 

Leo

[Rodney]

Bob,

Sorry I didn't see your problem with posting Exercise 4.

You can certainly edit the post but you are also always welcome to email or PM me and I'll move it to the right location. For you I would do this.

 

While I cannot speak for other forum areas here in the New Users Forum if you want a post deleted just edit it to say something like "Delete Me!" and eventually I'll see it and remove it. You can then spend your time on more productive things and not worry about the ins and outs of posting.

 

Glad to see you are doing so well with the exericises. Keep up the great job. You look like you are having fun!

 

 

Meanwhile...

Mark D. Newitt aka Liquidspaceman said on Mar 3 2006 at exactly 06:58 PM:

Mr. Peanuthead aka Rodney lol! Love ya Mr. R.

 

You gonna pay fer dat!

 

Mark,

I really like your work. Nice touch with the taped corners.

Thanks for one of those "Now why didn't I think of that moments".

[KenSingleton]

Name: Ken Singleton

 

Exercise completed: 5 - Take a Walk

Date Completed: 6th March 2005

Remarks/Suggestions: Exciting to see creations coming alive!

RabbitWalk.mov

[Leo73]

Ken,

 

Excellent job with the exercise. Yes, it's always great to see an animation that you worked come to life. It makes it all worthwhile. About the only crit I have for this one would be: You could have added to secondary motion to the tail. You did it with the ears and they came out great. The tail would move down as the character moves up and would move up as the character moves down. Like I said, I am just being nitpicky.

 

Great job though,

 

Leo

[KenSingleton]

Not nitpicky - really helpful. Being a noob I need all the helpful suggestions I can get. Thanks Leo.

[Redwings]

Here is an older Take a Walk that I actually saved (Can you believe it), I will be going back through the lesson so I can relearn the techniques.

 

Take a Walk

Take_a_Walk__sm3_.mov

[Leo73]

Red,

 

Good job on this "older walk". Can't wait to see the new one. My only crit would be to make sure to add upper body and head movement as well. This one here, he is really stiff in the chest and head. Other wise good job. There's a great book out there that I am reading and using alot. It's called The Animator's Survival Kit. It breaks everything down and I think is a great reference book to have on the shelf. I myself am still using it (and being told to use it) to this day.

 

 

Leo

[stinkyu111]

Great expression! Looks like he had a good day at work...=) Well one thing only that needs fixing....For some reason it looks like hes slides a bit.....i found that this is a problem for me if i dont put enough time on my walk cycle...try setting the walk cycle legth to 15:00 and see if that makes it any better....if ya got any questions ill answer them.

 

Thanks for the comments Robert-Jank...i just now getting back to it

 

yes my feet were sliding ...fixed it

 

( good eye Robert )

 

ps the walk cycle was at 15:00 ... with the fix i feel he's walking slower ..oh well

 

hope it's better

Bunny_walk_fixed_again.mov

[Leo73]

Talk about laid back without a care in the world. Good job on your walk. Maybe a little head bob would add to it a little more. Just my opinion though.

 

Once again good job,

 

Leo

[Leo73]

Liquidspaceman,

 

This exercise came up good. Once again I like your use of scenes and sound effects. The actual walk does seem stiff though. When the rabbit is walking towards the camera he upper arms are bent at like a 90 degree angle. You have good motion on the ears for side to side but when he walks in profile, the upper body has a stiff quality to it. When I animated I try to work on the body in layers. I get the over motion of what I need or what and then go back and tweak from there. Also don't be afraid to get up and act it out. That is something that I struggled with for a long time due to stage fright. That's just my .02 though.

 

Good luck with the rest of your exercises,

 

Leo

[Liquidspaceman]

From the Lagoon of Liquidspaceman...

 

Thank you Leo for your insight. It's funny how you watch something over and over and not see the obvious. Bunny's arms do look rather odd in that position. I do need to say, in my defense, I did the tutorial on my 2nd monitor and stopped it along the way, the entire tutorial. I fix those arms and stiffness when I get a chance. Thanks Leo!

 

Liquidspaceman, over and out

 

 

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[Leo73]

No problem. Glad I could help. Good Luck

 

Leo

[mfortunato]

Hello All -

 

Name: Michael Fortunato

Exercise completed - Ex5 - Take A Walk

Date Completed - 03-16-2006

Instructor: Das Book!

Remarks: I had some difficulty with Exercise 5. The bunny kept jumping the last keyframe which made him seem to twitch everytime it got to 1:05:00. And I realized, whoops! I forgot to copy and paste the 1st keyframe at the end to complete the cycle.

 

With that done, I finally rendered it. Here's the happy-go-lucky-rabbit:

http://www.geocities.com/m_fortunato/Ex5-T...elFortunato.mov

 

And just because I've had a very hard week, here's a rabbit that's closer to how I feel:

http://www.geocities.com/m_fortunato/Ex5-T...elFortunato.mov

 

- Michael

 

P.S. - I have to say this forum is fantastic! Everyone is incredibly nice and I've been nosing around the exercises I've completed to see everyone's work - there's so much wonderful and creative stuff! I can't wait to continue on my journey through A:M!

[Leo73]

Michael,

 

Great job on both walks. The emotion really comes through. The only problems I see is your having some slipping issues with the feet. It just feels like they are slipping a little when he is taking steps in both of your walks. Also, the feet tend to go into the floor. That's an easy enough fix, you should just be able to move the path up a little and then his feet won't go through the floor.

 

Just my .02 though,

 

Leo

[mfortunato]

Michael,

 

Great job on both walks. The emotion really comes through. The only problems I see is your having some slipping issues with the feet. It just feels like they are slipping a little when he is taking steps in both of your walks. Also, the feet tend to go into the floor. That's an easy enough fix, you should just be able to move the path up a little and then his feet won't go through the floor.

 

Just my .02 though,

 

Leo

 

 

Thanks, Leo! Yeah, I noticed especially on the 2nd walk that the feet slide. I'll definitely go back and see if I can correct that. Thanks, too, for noticing the feet going into the floor. I didn't even notice that! Actually, I'll go back to the walk cycle and see if I can fix it from there. This way it's fixed for whenever I use it again (and I think I just might have to ).

 

Thanks again!

- Michael

[tysono_71]

Name: Tyson Oswald

Tutorial: 5

Date Sunday March 23, 2006

 

He's blinking his eyes to much so I guess his eyes are to dry, some visine might be appropriate.

 

Exercise 5

[Leo73]

Tyson,

 

Some of the things that jump out at me, his arms seem to snap at certain frames. You have good secondary motion on his ears, but his upper body is stiff and there is no secondary motion on his tail. It also feels like his feet are sliding a little bit. Just my .02 though

 

Leo

[tysono_71]

Tyson,

 

Some of the things that jump out at me, his arms seem to snap at certain frames. You have good secondary motion on his ears, but his upper body is stiff and there is no secondary motion on his tail. It also feels like his feet are sliding a little bit. Just my .02 though

 

Leo

 

Leo,

 

I made some tweaks, I missed the tail motion though. I like this version better, the blinks are less and the arm motion I like too. Let me know what ya think.

 

Exercise 5_2

 

It's a bit big (2.7 meg)

[Technodandy]

Name: Daniel Michael Lisa (Technodandy)

 

Exercise Completed: Exercise 5

 

Date Completed: March 27, 2006

 

Instructor: The People of the A:M Forum, Martin Hash's Book and Hash, Inc. Video Tutorials.

 

[attachmentid=15461]

 

Take a walk

 

 

Hi all,

 

I have two question about exercise 5:

 

I had problems with Copy Keyframe to Paste Mirrored. It seemed to only copy the null positions accurately any secondary actions it did not transfer. Is there are something I forgot to do or should it be that way?

 

When I added the thumbs up, all of the right hand cycles from "00:00:00" to the "thumbs up" erased . Why is that and how can I prevent it?

 

All of these I had to corrected in the Choreography window frame by frame.

 

Technodandy

Exercise_5.wmv

[Leo73]

Tyson,

 

Your second walk is much better, but there seems to be a problem with the arms. I am attaching a pic showing the problem in detail. When his arms are swing forward, you have the elbows almosts snapping forward and dragging the lower arms and hands with it. You might have done that intentionally in which case, good job. It just makes it seem a bit off. Also maybe adding a little more subtle motion to his upper body and his tail. Like I said before, just my .02 though

 

Hope it helps

 

Leo

 

[attachmentid=15465]

[Technodandy]

Please read my last Post in exercise 5.

 

Technodandy.

[Rodney]

Please read my last Post in exercise 5.

 

Can you upload the project file?

That would help us understand what you are having problems with.

[Leo73]

I was actually going to suggest that Rodney.

[Technodandy]

What is the procedure for uploading a project file? I will do it when I get home.

 

Thank you,

Technodandy

[Leo73]

Technodandy,

 

See the attached pic on how to upload your project file.

 

[attachmentid=15499]

[Technodandy]

Hello Leo,

 

I tried the File Attachments field and I get a message the it will not except the *.prj format.

 

Technodandy

[Leo73]

Your best bet would be to use a program like Winrar or Winzip or StuffIt if you are on a Mac.

 

Hope that helps you out.

[Technodandy]

Thanks for your help Leo,

 

[attachmentid=15516]

 

Though I finished exercise 5, those two problem bug me. Let me know if something I did cause the problems or if it is just a nature of A:M I do not understand.

 

Technodandy

Project5.zip

[Leo73]

Technodandy,

 

When you compressed your project file, you forgot to add your Rabbit walk 1 .act. Without that, I cant see your rabbit walk and look at where the problem is. If you can add that to your .rar file then I can look at it.

 

Leo

[Technodandy]

Oh, thought it was enbedded in the project file.

 

Here it is.

 

[attachmentid=15523]

Rabbit_walk_1.zip

[Technodandy]

Leo did you forget me?

[Leo73]

Sorry No; been a busy day. I am going to look at it later tonite and will let you know tommorrow. Sorry

 

Leo

[jbooker]

Name: John Booker

 

Exercise completed - Ex5 - Take A Walk

 

Date Completed - 04-07-06

 

Instructor: Manual

 

 

[attachmentid=15817]

Ex5John_Booker2.mov

[Leo73]

Simply great John. That is one happy rabbit you got there. I kept waiting for him to take off skipping or running. Excellent motion. Keep up the good work

[cuboos]

name: Sam Wiley

 

number completed: Ex. 5

 

suggestions: maybe have moved him closer to the camera

 

[Rodney]

suggestions: maybe have moved him closer to the camera

 

No kiddin'!

 

Good job... he's really moving along.

[Dan_The_Man]

Hey I finished it but I had some trouble with the feet sliding. Any suggestions on how I fix that?

 

[attachmentid=16127]

Walk1Mbps_Stream001.mov

[the_black_mage]

O_o...ok...it looks like he was having a seizure as he was walking.dose this happen when hes not moving?...

[JohnnyB]

John Bailey

Exercise 5: Take A Walk

April 21, 2006

 

 

Finally got him walking in Quicktime with a blue sky! Whew!

 

 

http://media.putfile.com/Take-a-Walk-5

[Leo73]

Good job John. The only crit I really have is the arms. Your getting a snapping motion on them when he is swinging them. Other than that the walk looked good.

[Technodandy]

Leo and Rodney,

 

I am back, I have been busy the past few weeks I have been building a new computer. I just got it working right. So I am back in business. I can render a lot faster. I can render the last exercise 3 seconds a frame instead of 1 min in a half. I can't wait to get back to work.

 

Did anyone get to answer the question of exercise 5 that I had?

[Rodney]

Welcome back Dandy!

 

Did anyone get to answer the question of exercise 5 that I had?

 

You may have to remind us.

[Technodandy]

 

I have two question about exercise 5:

 

I had problems with Copy Keyframe to Paste Mirrored. It seemed to only copy the null positions accurately any secondary actions it did not transfer. Is there are something I forgot to do or should it be that way?

 

When I added the thumbs up, all of the right hand cycles from "00:00:00" to the "thumbs up" erased . Why is that and how can I prevent it?

 

All of these I had to corrected in the Choreography window frame by frame.

 

Technodandy

[einekatze]

Name: Elizabeth S. Borkowski

 

Exercise Completed: Exercise 5

 

Date Completed: 5/3/06

 

Instructor: TAoAM manual, Hash support, and the AM Forums

 

Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: In the first version I did of this exercise my rabbit looked like he was very heavy in his step or doing lunges instead of walking. He is a little better now, but his arms at the shoulder still do some supernatural twisting.

 

http://www.esbdesign.com/Ex5rabbitwalkfinal.mov

[Rodney]

Very good Elizabeth!

 

his arms at the shoulder still do some supernatural twisting.

 

Maybe its the size of the image but I don't really see it.

If you ever return to this exercise (and you will someday even if not this specific exercise) think secondary action. Some of it really isn't explored in this exercise (the ears are and I do see some movement in yours).

Eye blinks and a final pass to add personality and flair will give your characters a reason to cross the floor.

 

Good Job!

 

 

Dandy,

Did you solve your keyframing issue. I see someone else posted a similar problem so will have to look into this. I'd say at a glance that the parts of the character you want to keyframe on frame 0 just aren't selected (see keyframing icons down on the bottom left).

 

Sorry for the delayed response.

[thumperness]

OK. I'm starting Exercise # 5 and have run into a couple issues right off the bat that I feel like clearing up before I go on. I believe these are issues with the set-up of A:M and this may be the wrong forum for these questions. If so, please re-direct me.

 

First: When trying to get the vertical and horizontal guides to show up, I discovered that I can't get the rulers to appear. I have gone to [TOOLS] [OPTIONS] and chosen the "Action" Tab. I check the "Display Rulers" box and hit ok. No rulers. I restart the software and still no rulers. Bug? See my sig. for my specs and software version.

 

Second: I'm getting alot of duplicate 'Actors' and folders in my Library. I have gone to [TOOLS] [OPTIONS] and chosen the "Folders" Tab. I go into the pull down menu to Libraries. Here's what's there:

 

C:\Docs and Settings\David\Application Data\Hash Inc\Libraries

C:\Program Files\Hash Inc\V12.0\data\Libraries

C:\Docs and Settings\David\Application Data\Hash Inc\Libraries

C:\Program Files\Hash Inc\V12.0\data\Libraries

C:\Program Files\Hash Inc\V12.0\Libraries

 

When I try and delete the duplicates, they just come back when I restart. Why? How is this fixed? When I installed the software I did tell it to load everything from the CD. I forget the exact way that is stated.