Caroline Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Fabulous, Jerry - love the action, and he's even blinking. Lateral foot slippage - I think you've been looking at it too long - I couldn't see any. If there really is some, then it would be in the channels somewhere - maybe changing the spline interpolation in places - have you looked at that? It's here in the manual: http://www.hash.com/htmlHelp/v12.0/CustomH...sed_Drivers.htm In the bouncing ball example there, if you don't change the interpolation to hold, when the ball reaches the ground, it will continue the spline line and actually go through the ground, before going up. But your walk is so good, you probably knew all that already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmf3d3d Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 In the bouncing ball example there, if you don't change the interpolation to hold, when the ball reaches the ground, it will continue the spline line and actually go through the ground, before going up. Thanks Caroline, I think the "slipping" I see as Rabbit rounds the corner is probably spin. As the path curves the foot is rotating slightly? I suppose I could compensate for that in the choreography but I don't think I'll bother for this exercise. Thanks for the pointers re: interpolation. I actually did not know about that variable but I dealt with the problem of overshoot and drift by adding a couple of control points. This accidentally adds some "preparatory" action before big movements. I did the same thing to add acceleration and deceleration to the movements (add a control point to change the slope for part of an action). BUT, now that I know about interpolation methods, shaggy will have an easier time NOT opening the door . Thanks again! --Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockLee Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Name: Steven Ellinger Exercise Completed: Exercise 5 Take A Walk Date Completed: 1-27-07 Instructor: None Remarks/Suggestions: Here is my walk cycle. The full fifteen seconds was to big, so I Picked a smaller section to show. I don't have a website, so this is the best I could do. TakeAWalkShort.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howboring Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 Name: Kenneth Wong Exercise Completed: Exercise 5: Take a Walk Date Completed: 31st January 2007 Instructor: Just the manual. Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: I've done this a long time ago but I couldn't find it so I did it again I could of added more head movement and added some eye movement to make him more real And I don't know why the sky is black when rendered in QuickTime The next Exercise is fun! takeawalk.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted January 31, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted January 31, 2007 There he goes... takin' a walk... again. And I don't know why the sky is black when rendered in QuickTimeKenneth, The most likely culprit is having the Alpha Channel option set to 'On' in the render panel. Toggle that to off and it should turn to your background color which is most likely the default color; light blue. You said: Instructor: Just the manual. If you haven't downloaded and viewed the video tutorials you are really missing out. Steve Sappington and others do an outstanding job of taking you through the exercises. Don't miss them! http://www.hash.com/vm/ Note: The video tutorials require the ensharpen video codec in order to be viewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howboring Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 There he goes... takin' a walk... again. And I don't know why the sky is black when rendered in QuickTimeKenneth, The most likely culprit is having the Alpha Channel option set to 'On' in the render panel. Toggle that to off and it should turn to your background color which is most likely the default color; light blue. You said: Instructor: Just the manual.If you haven't downloaded and viewed the video tutorials you are really missing out. Steve Sappington and others do an outstanding job of taking you through the exercises. Don't miss them! http://www.hash.com/vm/ Note: The video tutorials require the ensharpen video codec in order to be viewed. Thanks for the tip about the Alpha channel Yeah, I'm going to have a look at the vids for the next few exercises Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunames Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 NAME: Steve George EXERCISE: #5 Take a walk INSTRUCTOR: you all Again this is an older exercise from the original ABC.....linky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eburritt Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Name: Ed Burritt Exercise Completed: #5 Date Completed: 02/21/2007 Instructor: Manual Comments: None Walkin.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffi Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 NAME: Ralf Kampp EXERCISE: #5 Take a walk Date Completed: Febr. 25, 2007 And here is the link. That was fun again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 That was excellent, Ralf, and just a wee bit eerie. (There was a bit of quicksand around the left.) (You'll need speakers, people) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffi Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 There was a bit of quicksand around the left. Yes, you are right. I had realized that too late and didn't want to waint another night for a new render. The walk path had somehow sunken into the ground :-) And I don't like the walking and the knocking sound too much, but I just didn't have others at hand Thanks again for your friendly words! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullis Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Hello, I tried to upload my rabbitwalk but the upload failed. It was an avi file, how do I make a small mov file? When I make them through AM they get very much larger than the avi files, vhere is the magical hook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted March 13, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted March 13, 2007 I tried to upload my rabbitwalk but the upload failed. It was an avi file, how do I make a small mov file? When I make them through AM they get very much larger than the avi files, vhere is the magical hook? I don't think you can upload AVI files here in the forum. I recommend converting to MOV format (Sorensen 3 for best quality/compression) You can convert the AVI you already have. In the PWS click on the AVI shortcut Right Click 'Save Animation As' Adjust your format and compression If its still too large a file you might render out to a smaller size. One way to do this within A:M is to use a camera rotoscope. Apply your AVI as a rotoscope on your camera. Then render out to your new format, compression and resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerblue Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Name: Pip Rawlinson Exercise: 5:Take a Walk Date Completed: Early Feb 2007 Instructors: Manual, forums and videos Well here comes Rabbit, blinking like a robot and slipping along. Not quite what I was after... and the secondary motion I'd tried to add to his hips was obviously far too subtle. I'm pleased with his ears. Well, it's something... Any advice? Particularly on the feet? Please?! Pip Ex5Tigerbluev3.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrus Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Very nice job tiger. To answer your question you rabbits feet seem to be slipping. One way i know of correcting it is to play with the Chars stride length. It might just be a simply misplacement of the points between the heel of the front foot. an the back foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerblue Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 Thanks Logrus, I wondered if it might be something that simple. I can now go back and try that. Many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliotclem1 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hi can someone help me. On the take the walk exercise the copy key frame and the paste mirrored functions don't seem to work. Because when i paste mirrored it dosn't do anything Has anyone had this problem before and if so how do i fix this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerblue Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hi elliot, I had a similar problem. It's a few weeks ago but I think the problem for me was using v14 (Mac). When I switched to using v13, it worked. Don't know if that's relevant for you but if so, it might be worth a try. Pip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrus Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hi can someone help me. On the take the walk exercise the copy key frame and the paste mirrored functions don't seem to work. Because when i paste mirrored it dosn't do anything Has anyone had this problem before and if so how do i fix this. Hmm well not 100% sure what it is. Certain things you can check off a list are this. If someone else is using A:M along with you most times then not they will set the controls for things they are tinkering with that will effect you. So if your using this program with someone else. Its best to remember to reset your settings. Another issue is just a simple mental error.Cut, an copy keyframe are next to each other, as well as paste keyframe an paste mirrored. So sometimes its very simple to get the one confused with the other. The same thing can be said for the keyframes you choose. Make sure your choosing the right ones as well. The other most common thing is A:M for some odd reason is so simple to work with, But does have a tendency to load like crap. Its not uncommon to have it install on your system only to be missing files an other things. Sometimes a fresh reinstall will fix that. I know for me my first install i had no project files to speak of. It just didnt get transfered over. So i reinstalled an everything was fine. Hope this helps a tad, if for anything at least a sort of as a reminder, as well as a check list. Im not trying to say you goofed or anythig like that. This is basically what issues i went thru while working with step 5. The g/f had farted around with the settings, I wasnt paying attention to my copies an paste, An i cut an copied wrong fames a couple of times.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbeery Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Name: Jim Beery Exercise Completed:Take A Walk Date Completed: April 02 2007 Instructor: TaoA:M pdf Remarks:Great exercise Great software Great Day to all! TaoAMWalk.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbenefi33 Posted April 3, 2007 Share Posted April 3, 2007 Exe 5 Take A Walk is done I got the rabbit walking on a short pear. Take_A_Walk_1.WMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsqueezer Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Name: Brent Lowrie Exercise Completed: Exercise 5 Date Completed: March 31, 2007 Just moving through the exercises as fast as possible to get up to production speed. I would like to have added quite a bit more overlapping action and a much smoother finish but rushed with my current production schedule. Link to my exercise 5 movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecomics Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 On the take the walk exercise the copy key frame and the paste mirrored functions don't seem to work. Because when i paste mirrored it dosn't do anything Has anyone had this problem before and if so how do i fix this. I had the same thing happen; it was because I had switched from Skeletal Mode to Muscle Mode for better viewing. After switching back to Skeletal and copying the keyframe again, Paste Mirrored worked. I guess the computer can only see the bones if you can! --Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecomics Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Name: Roger Christenson Exercise Completed: Exercise 5 Date Completed: 11 April 2007 Instructor: Book, video, and forum. Exercise 5 result: ex5.mov Rabbit Walkin' Since I'm new here, I'd appreciate a little feedback from anyone - is the step too abrupt, bouncy etc.? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullis Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Hello, here comes my rabbit, happily walking. Took me some extra time with the compression software. rabbitwalks.mov best regards, Ulrika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecomics Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Ulrika, That looks fine to me. I'm sure no expert, but as someone who just worked on the rabbit walk last week, I can't see anything to improve; it looks smoother than mine. -Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logrus Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Name: Roger Christenson Exercise Completed: Exercise 5 Date Completed: 11 April 2007 Instructor: Book, video, and forum. Exercise 5 result: ex5.mov Rabbit Walkin' Since I'm new here, I'd appreciate a little feedback from anyone - is the step too abrupt, bouncy etc.? Thanks! Looks good to me. I did notice your rabbit likes to take a longer stride with his right foot, Not sure if you noticed that or intended it to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted April 15, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted April 15, 2007 Ulrika, I like. You've even got him going the extra distance! (That may have contributed to the stride effect that Logrus mentioned. The only thing I'll suggest is something not even required by the exercise. When you have him blink don't be afraid to keep his eyes closed for a little while. Nice! Roger, I missed your request for feedback. Sorry about that. Yours looks like a classic execution with a 10 9 10 from the judges. (That middle one sure is picky) The suggestion I'd make would be to vary it up a bit but again likke Ulrika's eyeblinks thats not required for success here. The head weaving back and forth started to get really obvious as the walk went on. Outstanding work everyone. Keep what you are learning solidly in mind. Even the littlest things. If it caught your eye now... it surely will again later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecomics Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Thank you, Rodney and Logrus, for the very welcome feedback! As hard as it is to judge one's own work, it's twice as valuable to have honest input from people nice enough to take a real look at it. Now if I can remember what I've learned while doing exercise 6.... -Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Del Porte Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hey Roger, Nice walk, a lot of personality! A couple of suggestions to try that might plus it up a little. 1. When the heel makes contact, have the foot come down flat on the very next frame 2. In a couple of places the side to side action of the hips take the COG outside instead of over the weight baring foot. Neither are big problems for so distinctive a walk but it may look a little more crisp. Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecomics Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hey Roger, Nice walk, a lot of personality! A couple of suggestions to try that might plus it up a little. 1. When the heel makes contact, have the foot come down flat on the very next frame 2. In a couple of places the side to side action of the hips take the COG outside instead of over the weight baring foot. Neither are big problems for so distinctive a walk but it may look a little more crisp. Good job. Thank You! Those are just the kind of suggestions needed to improve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliotclem1 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Ok, as i have said before in this forum my 'Paste mirrored function' Doesn't work for rabbit and doesn't seem to work for any other pre-made characters. Please can someone help me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliotclem1 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Solved the problem i just restarted the settings to default and it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliotclem1 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Name: Elliot Clements Exercise Completed: Exercise 5: Take a walk Total Completed Exercises: 5 Date Completed: 21 April, 2007 Instructors: Manual and Video Tutorials Remarks/Suggestions: I enjoyed doing this exercise but got a bit frustrated when i the paste mirrored function didn't work. I think i will need to come back to it at a later date as the hand actions are a bit jerky. Exercise_5_take_a_walk.mov What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooster Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Name: Steve Wooster Exercise Completed: Exercise 5 I really tried to give a animation a lot of follow-through, though perhaps it's a bit too much for a rabbit that's only walking and not running. Also, I took extra care to ensure that there is no foot-slipping. One problem I've noticed is that when it comes to the timeline splines, they don't really seem to loop, so the slopes of the curve at the first and last frames are entirely different. As a result, the rabbit's left-hand seems to jolt forward when the walk cycle loops. Does anybody know if it's possible to set the spline tangent without changing the interpolation method? I seem to remember seeing that some place, but I can't remember where... ex5_custom.mov Date Completed: 4/15/2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian_ruvalcaba Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Hey look hes kinda mad of us looking at him, i put a constraint to the null that control the eyes. PLz leave comments...Adrian Ruvalcaba. walk_mad.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted May 30, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted May 30, 2007 Adrian, He looks like he's a Rabbit on a mission. As you feel more comfortable with the animation controls I hope you'll have a desire to return to this guy. There is a story in there somewhere. If you think back to Exercise 3, the 'rolling up his sleeve and getting ready for a fight' pose fits quite nicely with this. Question then becomes... whats on the recieving end of Rabbit's attention? *Gulp* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted May 30, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted May 30, 2007 Steve, You aren't too far from having him hit a 'chicken walk'. It has a comic feel to it... very fluid... wavy. Does anybody know if it's possible to set the spline tangent without changing the interpolation method? Within any interpolation method in the Timeline you can Hit the P Key to peak the keyframe. This allows you to adjust the tangents separately. More than likely though just tweaking the bias handles will help you find the sweet spot you are looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 He looks like he's a Rabbit on a mission He's off to help that Shaggy, who keeps "borrowing" his carrots, to open that door. Good job, Adrian, nice ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted May 30, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted May 30, 2007 He's off to help that Shaggy, who keeps "borrowing" his carrots, to open that door. That sounds like a dangerous encounter. Oooo the conflict! A supercilious (and stubborn) immovable object versus a ridicularlious irrestistable (and mad!) force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAngus Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Ah Ha... !!! Very cool dude walk cycle... The timing really makes it... very nice.... Name: Elliot Clements Exercise Completed: Exercise 5: Take a walk Total Completed Exercises: 5 Date Completed: 21 April, 2007 Instructors: Manual and Video Tutorials Remarks/Suggestions: I enjoyed doing this exercise but got a bit frustrated when i the paste mirrored function didn't work. I think i will need to come back to it at a later date as the hand actions are a bit jerky. Exercise_5_take_a_walk.mov What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted May 30, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted May 30, 2007 Ah Ha... !!! Very cool dude walk cycle... The timing really makes it... very nice.... Agreed! Your exercise does beg the question though. Did you have to adjust the path to allow the Rabbit to walk through without passthroughs or did you get it right on the first take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePett Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Name: Steven Ellinger Exercise Completed: Exercise 5 Take A Walk Date Completed: 1-27-07 Instructor: None Remarks/Suggestions: Here is my walk cycle. The full fifteen seconds was to big, so I Picked a smaller section to show. I don't have a website, so this is the best I could do. I liked your walk a lot! Mikepett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePett Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Has anyone else noticed that about six and a half to seven minutes into this tutorial the mic goes out and we are listening through what sounds like a distant laptop mic? Is that just me? I tried downloading it as well as the web version and it seems like it is the same. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted May 31, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted May 31, 2007 Has anyone else noticed that about six and a half to seven minutes into this tutorial the mic goes out and we are listening through what sounds like a distant laptop mic? Is that just me? Definitely have noticed that. Whats strangest about that is that I don't recall it always being that way. It must have been though as to my knowledge the video has never changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phatso Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 My walk cycle. All I can say is, after doing this one I'm glad there are ready-to-wear walk cycles in the library. ex5_take_a_walk.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammad Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 wait... Ill fix post in a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeLapointe Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Name: Mike Lapointe Exercise: 5 Take a Walk Date: June 23, 2007 Comments: Still learning lots and having lots of fun. Seemed to have trouble really getting the feel of the head swagger and ear movement, not sure if I actually got it right, something just doesn't seem quite natural about the whole walk I came up with. Had to render in draft to keep under 2 MB, I think I need to read some more posts and learn how to render and compress for best quality/size. Exercise5.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted August 5, 2007 Share Posted August 5, 2007 Name: Jeff Bolle Exercises Completed: 5 Date Completed: Sunday, August 5th, 2007 Instructor: Rodney, Vid Tuts, and Manual Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: Haha, I got to say this one I really enjoyed. I haven't made a walk cycle since I got A:M about 6 years ago. This one definatley needs work, but I had fun making it. takeawalk.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakerupert Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Hi there, I want to take another try on animation again and as expected run into many difficulties, In AM 14 Final I couldnt manage to paste mirror keyframes at all, in 13 it worked for a while before it got stuck and I had to start with a new action. Is there something to watch to better work with " paste mirrored"? Then I finished my walkcycle as you can see it here. There is still some jumping and the feet take off the ground between keyframes. Guess i have to go to the curve editor to fix that? as I remember somehow darkly from the baal-exercise.... well animation is kind of frustrating at the start.... ;>/ Jake Ladywalk240807.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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