mawilson Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Name: Mark Wilson Exercise Completed: Exercise 2: Chorus Line Date Completed: 15 August 06 Instructor: None Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: Again, nothing special. Straight from the book. Exercise_2.wmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted August 16, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted August 16, 2006 Done and done. I see you've already sped past Exercise 3 too. I'm hot on your trail though. Go Mark! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralfaz Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 WOW! There are some very nice renderings here for Exercise 2. Here is my version. Nothing fancy right now, just following along with the exercise in the book. Name: Al Dinelt Exercise Completed: Exercise 2: Chorus Line Date Completed: September 6, 2006 Instructor: TAoA:M [attachmentid=20332] exercise2.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyB Posted September 10, 2006 Share Posted September 10, 2006 I had to redo exercise 2 because my original file got corrupted somehow. Same concept, but I added some camera work I've been thinking about and some music for them to dance to. http://media.putfile.com/Chorus-Line Now to get back to Hair JohnnyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRToonMike Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Name: Mike Rhodes Exercise Completed: 2 - A Chorus Line Date Completed: sept 17, 2006 Nuthin' fancy. May have compressed it too much ex02_rhodes.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffin Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Dave MacLean EX2 Hope this link works :"> http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/gri...2DMACCanCan.flv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted September 22, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hope this link works It did. Nice job! Mike, I saw yours as well. Very cool to see you working through TaoA:M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Name: Caroline Begbie Exercise: Exercise 2 - Chorus Line Date Completed: 24th Sept 2006 Remarks: Played around with lighting, but I realised that needs a whole new lifetime, so I'll hold off on that for a while. Also, in the movie, my knight has a rather effeminate skip in his cancan, which the other two do not, but he does not do that in the project. Perhaps it is the compression (Sorenson Video 3). [attachmentid=20861] [Hi, Rodney, Mike, David!] Exercise_2.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyB Posted September 24, 2006 Share Posted September 24, 2006 Name: Caroline Begbie Exercise: Exercise 2 - Chorus Line Date Completed: 24th Sept 2006 Remarks: Played around with lighting, but I realised that needs a whole new lifetime, so I'll hold off on that for a while. Also, in the movie, my knight has a rather effeminate skip in his cancan, which the other two do not, but he does not do that in the project. Perhaps it is the compression (Sorenson Video 3). [attachmentid=20861] [Hi, Rodney, Mike, David!] Hi! I had the same problem with Knight. Have you gone to the following forum location and downloaded the new (good) Knight? If you have the Knight from Yeti V12 (evil Knight), he has weak knees. Not your problem. download this Knight and resubmit. http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showt...3&hl=Knight Let me know if that works for you. JohnnyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Thank you, JohnnyB - I thought I had downloaded that one, but it must have been after I started, and I failed to get the correct knight in the actual project, although it did look OK when I ran it in the choreography. It does look much smoother now. Take 2: [attachmentid=20876] Exercise2v2.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeetman Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Name: George Dugas Exercise completed: 2 Completed on October 16th 2006 Estimated time to complete: I'd say about no more than a week. It's hard to judge because I only worked on this in my spare time and I took a long break in between. Special thanks: To Ken H. and Rodney. Early on during the preliminary animation I had a problem getting the foot slipping action of shaggy working in the choreography. Ken and Rodney found the problem which allowed me to create all the nasty things that happen in the animation LOL so thanks guys I know one critique I will get from this animation. there is little to no cue for the viewer to understand the events. To see all that is going on, you'll need to watch the animation a few times. I had planned on telling the story through different camera shots but decided that because this is only an exercise to show how to set up a scene and load re-usable actions, I didn't need to spend any more time on this. I think as it stands it's pretty cool. [attachmentid=21516] George Exercise_2.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 That was great George. Too funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeetman Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 That was great George. Too funny Thanks Dhar, After seeing others creative ways of doing this exercise, I wanted something that would stand out. Like I'm sure a lot of animations materialize, this started out being a simple animation but as I kept working on it more and more, ideas kept popping in my head which lead to the chain reaction you see here. This could be a good example of cause and effect LOL. I'm glad you liked it. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralfaz Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Hey George... That was priceless. Watched it several times and stepped through it very slowly. You are right about there being a lot to see in the video. I loved how the rabbit followed the knight as he went head over heels, but as a true performer, the show must go on. And the way the floor board flexes is great! Almost feel like calling them Larry, Moe and Curly Joe!! Nice attention to the little details. If the little details weren't there, it would feel as if something was missing. But with the little details there, it feels right, even if we are not consciously aware of them. I once read that the best special effect is the one that people don't recognize is even there. I think it is the same way with the little details as well. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeetman Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Hey George... That was priceless. Watched it several times and stepped through it very slowly. You are right about there being a lot to see in the video. I loved how the rabbit followed the knight as he went head over heels, but as a true performer, the show must go on. And the way the floor board flexes is great! Almost feel like calling them Larry, Moe and Curly Joe!! Nice attention to the little details. If the little details weren't there, it would feel as if something was missing. But with the little details there, it feels right, even if we are not consciously aware of them. I once read that the best special effect is the one that people don't recognize is even there. I think it is the same way with the little details as well. Al Thanks Al, I agree wholeheartedly that it's the little details that sell an animation and I try to put as much as I can. On that note: I know because the render is small due to file size but did you notice that after Rabbit looks over and sees what happens to Knight, he shrugs his shoulders to basically say, "Oh well the show must go on". I was hoping people would pick up on the "show must go on" theme and you did!! Thanks for commenting, George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted October 19, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted October 19, 2006 George, What can one say about such a great take on Exercise 2? Superb, best 'scene' to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeetman Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 George, What can one say about such a great take on Exercise 2? Superb, best 'scene' to date. Thanks Rodney, I couldn't have done it with out the support from you, Ken and from the many posts people have created on the forums that help so much. George Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phobos Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 [attachmentid=21873] Heres my Exercise2 in Zip format, with a *.mov inside. Hope the filename formats ok, everyone else seems to be putting their name in the post? I'm a bit shy! Thought I'd play with the rim light volumetric and fog in this one. EX2_PG_10312006US.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodguy20k Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Name: Daniel H Exercise: Chorus Line Date Completed: November 28th, 2006 Instructor: Rodney Remarks: Missing a few models, I opted for the Thom brothers to perform the CanCan for us. Someone needs to tell them to keep their hands out of their stomach. Here's a link to my file: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted November 29, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted November 29, 2006 Someone needs to tell them to keep their hands out of their stomach. Is it true that they pull off that effect with mirrors? I'm sure that's gotta be the secret. Way to improvise Daniel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbjohnsn Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Ulrika, Unless mistaken, the AVI file format is not an accepted format for uploading to the forum. There are several workarounds: - Upload the file to another webspace and link to it from the forum. - Use a program such as Winzip to compress the file into the .ZIP format. Then upload it to the forum. - Use a program/utility to convert the AVI to an animated .GIF image. Then upload it to the forum. I believe the forum will accept .MOV files as well but I don't think I've ever tried it. -Rodney When I reviewed the video for exersize2 I noticed the instructor selected the AVI format. So when I did the exersize, I also selected AVI. It was a waist of time because the prefered format is MOV. The upload was not execpted after spends ~12 hr rendering the file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroqwlf Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Name: Jeffrey Johnson Exercise: Exercise 2: Chorus Line Date Completed: December 2, 2006 http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Ama...current=Ex2.flv I made it quite short but it still took 20 minutes to render. The quality is low, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted December 3, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted December 3, 2006 When I reviewed the video for exersize2 I noticed the instructor selected the AVI format. So when I did the exersize, I also selected AVI. It was a waist of time because the prefered format is MOV. The upload was not execpted after spends ~12 hr rendering the file. The power of negative thinking never gets anything done. Think positively... like... "How can I solve this problem?" The important thing to realise is that you don't have to re-render! Now THAT would be a waste of time. If you open the AVI you rendered in A:M you can easily convert it to MOV, TGA are any number of other formats/codecs. Here's what I'd suggest (there are other ways to do this with A:M but this one is the quickest): - Create a New Project - Open your Project Workspace (PWS) - Under the Image option Right Click and choose Import then select Animation or Image Sequence - Locate and select your AVI (Make sure to select the checkbox that will import sequential images or you'll just get the first image) - Once imported Right Click on the Image of the Sequence in the PWS - Select "Save As Animation" - Name your file (and look for the options to change the codec. For best compression I recommend Sorensen 3) Good Luck and let us know if you have any difficulties! Rodney P.S. This might be a good time for me to recommend rendering to TGA sequential images the first time. This can help in a lot of situations such as when power goes out or you only want to replace part of your animation. Recompiling into another format later from the TGA sequence can save you a lot of time and frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrury Sanson Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Name:Chris J Exercise Completed: #2:The Chorus Line Instructor: The Art of Animation Master book(sorry Rodney ) Date Completed: December 28, 2006 E2Chrury.mov Let me know if that doesn't work. My comp has given me troubles with mov files. Notes: No problems with completing the exercise but I am a little worried about the action. I looks as though the characters are.... I'm not sure what they are doing. That's the top of the 'kick'. Any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodguy20k Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Is that what all the actors look like, or just the knight? If it's just the knight, look at the first post in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrury Sanson Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Nope, the other guys are doing it too. Shaggy looks almost normal. The rabbit has learned osmosis or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodguy20k Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Ouch... That's a pain. You might try another version of the action. You could also post the project file and see if it's your computer. Still, you got the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted December 29, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted December 29, 2006 We'll have to look into that one. I've seen some strange behavior in some exercises but don't recall seeing that. Do you have A:M on the Yeti CD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrury Sanson Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Nope. My versions were Sorenson(11.1 and 12.0) and the fancy new OZ disk. (13.0o) Here's the prj: E2.prj (everythings embeded) Could you post your version of the action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted December 29, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted December 29, 2006 Nope. My versions were Sorenson(11.1 and 12.0) and the fancy new OZ disk. (13.0o) Ah, you are ahead of me then! It'll be a few more weeks before I order my upgrade. It's possible the files on the Oz disk may be corrupt but no way to check from here. I'll investigate your file. *Update: - The actions appear to be the same. - The models (Rabbit at least) appear to be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrury Sanson Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 - The actions appear to be the same.As in it works for you? or it mirrored my results? - The models (Rabbit at least) appear to be different. Ah yes. I've made sure all my librarys are shown. So I have version 12's models and version 13s in the library window. This gives gives me a copies for a few of the more famous actors. I probably just put the earlier version in. To test things, I got both versions of all three and gave them all the same dance. The leg position changes a small bit between versions but they all look like they want their knee in their lung. It should be noted that the knight models look exactly the same. So I'm thinking it's the action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodguy20k Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Self performed heimlich? I just got v13, so I'll see what I'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted December 30, 2006 Author Admin Share Posted December 30, 2006 As in it works for you? or it mirrored my results? Sorry for the delay. Initially I thought the models were the culprits. That doesn't appear to be the case here. I tried to first isolate the actions... then isolate the models... I get broken poses in each case. I left off testing before going back and starting from scratch. That may be the best thing to do here. The differences in models don't appear to be whats causing the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodguy20k Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Same here. I built from scratch, and it worked just fine. Pulling in the latest models and actions, and your Chor was still... Painful. Try rebuilding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totlover Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Name Caleb Gunby Exercise Completed: Ex 2- Chorus Line Date completed: jan 2, 2006 this is the link: http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h127/ret...current=Ex2.flv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo73 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Good job Caleb. Keep it up, the exercises get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totlover Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 thanks that is very good to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicknite Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Name: Dion Kirfman Exercise: 2 Chorus Line Date completed: 1-5-2007 exercise_2_Chorus_line.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmf3d3d Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Name: Jeremiah M. Faries Exercise Completed: #2: Chorus line Date Completed: Jan 3, 2007 Instructor: none Remarks: The spotlights were originally intended to mask the weirdness of "crazy legs" the CD Knight. I replaced him with the corrected version but left the moving spots. The lights seem a little frantic in the short loop but, hey, it's the CanCan... exercise_2_fixed_knight.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo73 Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Very nice Jeremiah. I especially like your animated spotlights. Keep up the great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted January 6, 2007 Author Admin Share Posted January 6, 2007 That then is one of those very happy mistakes (or close enough to it). I think the moving lights really add a lot to the scene. Bravo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonsire Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Second post of the day. Phillip Moon Exercise #2 (Also #'s 4, 5, 7) March 12, 2005 No Instructor I put exercises 2 4 5 and 7 all into one Movie. It's 15 megs and not too long. In .mov format. http://phillipmoon.com/media/phils first_c_02.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerblue Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 Hello, here's my completed exercise. Name: Pip Rawlinson Exercise: Ex 2 Chorus Line Date Completed: 26th Jan 2007 Remarks: My stage appears to have a flat curtain. I'm using the Mac v14 of A:M and this is the stage in the props folder of that version. Pip Ex2Tigerblue.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockLee Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Name: Steven Ellinger Excersise Completed: Excersise 2 Chorus Line Date Completed: 1-27-07 Instructor: None Remarks/Suggestions: I figured out that AVI's don't work, and the MOV file I tried to make was too big. I looked in this forum and found that people are zipping the files, so I did that. As for the exercise, I am not really satisfied with the camera angle, but the important thing in this exercise is learning how actions work on different sized characters. I think that actions are very cool, even if it feels like cheating. CanCan.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nunsofamerica Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 here we go Ryan Krysiak Exercise 2 February 1, 2007 I had trouble getting it on the board so its the video on photobucket http://s121.photobucket.com/albums/o204/nu...=chorusline.flv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunames Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 NAME: Steve George EXERCISE: #2 INSTRUCTOR: the forums ex2.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwilkens Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 My Exercise 2 resubmission.. http://robwilkens.com/tao/tao-exercise2.avi -Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largento Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Name: Mark Largent Exercise 2 February 6, 2007 Comments: Like Tigerblue, I'm using a Mac & A:M 14 (a5) and my curtain looks flat, too. For fun, I moved the camera around and rendered the scene 3 times. I rendered the individual frames as TGAs and imported them into Quicktime and then stuck 'em in iMovie and added a little music clip. Kind of works with it. :-) I tried uploading the movie, but got a message saying that I wasn't "permitted to upload this type of file." I saved it as an mp4, so it'd be small. I stuck it up here instead: http://web.mac.com/randarr/iWeb/animation/Movie.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Great stuff, Mark - love the music. You can import tgas into A:M and then output them again - This thread here. However, iMovie is easier to add music (at least, I've never tried it in A:M, so I'm probably wrong). If you render in A:M, to .mov, using Sorensen 3 compression, then you get a small movie that can be uploaded to the forum. Having said that, though - I love the page your movie's on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largento Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Thanks! The music is an excerpt from an old David Seville Alvin & The Chipmunks song called "Alvin's Harmonica." (That's why you hear that harmonica flourish at the end!) The wmv file referenced in the thread you linked to doesn't seem to be online anymore. I'll check on the extras DVD and see if it's there. QT handled it pretty easily. (There's an "Open Image Sequence" option.) I wanted to bring it into iMovie, so that I could play with putting the different shots together. The music was an afterthought, but it did help with figuring out where I needed to take out some frames to keep the motion passing through the clips. There's an illusion in the close-up that the camera is pulling back a little which I guess is because the character is moving. I thought it was probably the file extension that kept it from uploading. The difference between the compression of the mp4 (using H.264) and a mov using Sorenson 3 is pretty large. The mp4 is 480x360 and came out at 568K. The mov I outputted with Sorenson 3 compression (medium setting) at 320x240 was 1.8MB! I can't take any credit for the page it's on, since it's just a template page in iWeb, but it does give it a kind of feel like I'm keeping a notebook of my class assignments. :-) Thanks again! Great stuff, Mark - love the music. You can import tgas into A:M and then output them again - This thread here. However, iMovie is easier to add music (at least, I've never tried it in A:M, so I'm probably wrong). If you render in A:M, to .mov, using Sorensen 3 compression, then you get a small movie that can be uploaded to the forum. Having said that, though - I love the page your movie's on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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