Super Mario Film

[Jequed]

Jequed, do you want to use the hands on my mario model?

 

Yes, thanks.

 

But I really like the shoes, would you mind uploading then so I can use it on mario?

 

I find it ironic that I thought I was doing bad on the shoes, but really good on the head.

 

Here's the shoes:

 

shoes.mdl

[tido]

Man, I hate copy/flip/attach.

 

what am I doing wrong?

I know I can simply copy paste then flip the x but there should be an automatic way

 

PS, dont laugh at me lol

[tido]

here is the hand (I copied it from a character on the extras cd, added more details on the fingers and on the top of hand so it is not "all" from me hehe)

 

hand.mdl

[Heath_Naylor]

Man, I hate copy/flip/attach.

 

what am I doing wrong?

I know I can simply copy paste then flip the x but there should be an automatic way

 

PS, dont laugh at me lol

LOLOLOL! Oh.. sorry. No it's nothing to laugh at. Simply move the body to center of the X and right on the y axis Line. If you know what I mean.

[Jequed]

Things to work on for luigi:

 

1.Increase the size of the buttons

2.Make the mouth posable

3.Replace the hands

4.Make the eyes spherical

5.Make shoulders

6.Curve the legs

[Chrury Sanson]

QUOTE(tido @ Feb 11 2007, 08:42 PM)

Man, I hate copy/flip/attach.

 

what am I doing wrong?

I know I can simply copy paste then flip the x but there should be an automatic way

 

PS, dont laugh at me lol

LOLOLOL! Oh.. sorry. No it's nothing to laugh at. Simply move the body to center of the X and right on the y axis Line. If you know what I mean.

 

And if that doesn't work, you can 'select all' in front view and rotate it 90 degrees (counterclock-wise in your case). Then Copy-flip-attach and rotate back.

[d34th5t4r]

Here is mario, most of the way done.

i am adjusting a previous model and i still have to fit the sideburns and hair to the face. And of course i have to smooth it out a little more

[Nunsofamerica]

Things to work on for luigi:

 

1.Increase the size of the buttons

2.Make the mouth posable

3.Replace the hands

4.Make the eyes spherical

5.Make shoulders

6.Curve the legs

 

 

 

for luigi, Take mairos head, change the hat green, change the mustache to luigi's and Shabam. you got the head

[Nunsofamerica]

Here is mario, most of the way done.

i am adjusting a previous model and i still have to fit the sideburns and hair to the face. And of course i have to smooth it out a little more

 

 

wonderful. love the eyes

[the_black_mage]

nice, he looks a bit cross-eyed though

[Heath_Naylor]

Hope those eyes are movable in some way.

[d34th5t4r]

marios eyes aren't moveable yet but they will be.

[the_black_mage]

you know what i think....maybe you should make that into Luigi's head too, that way they would look similar than completely different, you know what i mean. tido can model Luigi's and Mario's body and you do the head...

[tido]

Actually, that head is the head I made and gave to Deathstar so he could try to fix some problems with it.

 

I saw he completly redid the mouth, moved the ears a bit, created eyes and maybe some other things but I would rather say it is our model and not his model...

 

 

and... what did you do to the mustache? On pictures, it is black and not shaped that way...

 

Edit: Why aren't the ears still round? mario is a character with round ears. Well it may depend of the image we chose...

[Nunsofamerica]

Actually, that head is the head I made and gave to Deathstar so he could try to fix some problems with it.

 

I saw he completly redid the mouth, moved the ears a bit, created eyes and maybe some other things but I would rather say it is our model and not his model...

 

 

and... what did you do to the mustache? On pictures, it is black and not shaped that way...

 

 

I agree, tido. his mustache is odly mishappen.

[Nunsofamerica]

you know what i think....maybe you should make that into Luigi's head too, that way they would look similar than completely different, you know what i mean. tido can model Luigi's and Mario's body and you do the head...

 

 

Thats a good idea, but I think we should still use the body of "J's" luigi model. he was doing a good job on it. he just needs to tweak a bit

[the_black_mage]

well they are similar...ok..

[Nunsofamerica]

J spent some good time on that model, and he should be rewarded, it looks good.

[Nunsofamerica]

Well, here is the cast that is fully done so far. chrury will be rigging and giving shyguy a walkcycle. he is also busy with working on take 2, so it may be a bit before someone can use shyguy.

 

 

Also mage, how is yoshi coming?

[the_black_mage]

hey uh were are the bomb-om's eyes? btw you haven't told s exactly what your planning....

[Chrury Sanson]

I checked out the shy-guy for some preliminary rigging and found he has two left feet!

No one minds if I fix that, correct?

[Chrury Sanson]

take 2: test 1

This is right before he would start talking his lines.

dodge.mov

 

particles turned off so 3 seconds wouldn't take all night to render

The eyes need some more smart-skinning. I'll work on that.

Main points here:

-How's the timing?

-Does anyone know a better way for the camera shake? It's when Mario hits the ground.

 

In a related note, I can't find the 'repeat' command for actions. I've looked where it should be (action properties) but it has misplaced itself. any ideas?

 

Oh! What will be the finished movies resolution?

[the_black_mage]

if it helps i can fix up the lighting to lighten the shadows on him....

[Chrury Sanson]

When things get finalized that would be great. It seems to be normal when it loads up, then I do something and it get brighter.

[the_black_mage]

ok, but i expect the final movie to be something over 620 x 480 which is a common render resolution...

[tido]

Here is another update on mario.

 

If you guys don't poing me anything, I will consider the body completed and I will need the head to attach it and complete it

 

[d34th5t4r]

you know what i think....maybe you should make that into Luigi's head too, that way they would look similar than completely different, you know what i mean. tido can model Luigi's and Mario's body and you do the head...

i would be open to working on Luigi's head.

What i would like to do is give the mario head model back to Tido and have him make the Luigi head from it. i don't think Luigi's head is that different in detail from mario, it just needs some stretching and sculpting.

[d34th5t4r]

Actually, that head is the head I made and gave to Deathstar so he could try to fix some problems with it.

 

I saw he completly redid the mouth, moved the ears a bit, created eyes and maybe some other things but I would rather say it is our model and not his model...

 

 

and... what did you do to the mustache? On pictures, it is black and not shaped that way...

 

Edit: Why aren't the ears still round? mario is a character with round ears. Well it may depend of the image we chose...

The reason i changed the mustache to brown was so i could see the shape better while i modeled. It will end up being very dark brown.

 

Criticism noted on the mustache...i will revert it to Tido's original shape. i wonder what i was looking at?

Changes that still need to happen are : The cheeks need to be fatter. the eyes smaller. the nose and chin smoother. At that point i think it will be ready to go back to Tido

[d34th5t4r]

I checked out the shy-guy for some preliminary rigging and found he has two left feet!

No one minds if I fix that, correct?

two left feet huh? i don't like to sweat the details. thanks for fixin' that.

[Nunsofamerica]

i would be open to working on Luigi's head.

What i would like to do is give the mario head model back to Tido and have him make the Luigi head from it. i don't think Luigi's head is that different in detail from mario, it just needs some stretching and sculpting.

 

 

Well, just take mario's head, make it thinner, and give him a longer nose really. but. it would be great if you could do it deathstar. thanks.

[Nunsofamerica]

Here is another update on mario.

 

If you guys don't poing me anything, I will consider the body completed and I will need the head to attach it and complete it

 

 

 

wonderful tido. I would consider it done also.

[the_black_mage]

sorry for the misconception...i forgot you started it lol, no offense meant by it....

[d34th5t4r]

i have something to show...

Here is an eye test.

eye_test_side.mov

I have some reservations about using this system. the pupils have some problems as they approach the edges of the eyes. What you see in the test are the extremes that the pupil can reach without looking bad.

[totlover]

i like your mario a lot

 

he has so much character in him

[Chrury Sanson]

C'mon I must have done something wrong. Are there really no comments?

 

Talking test: For such a simple character, this was how I thought he should talk. Ala 'Paper Mario'

gtalktest.mov

Does he need lip poses?

Let me know if you don't like it.

 

The shy-guy would've had his walk cycle almost done (minus smart-skinning) but 'paste mirrored' isn't working for some reason.

[the_black_mage]

lip poses arint nessesary, this video isn't going to be based on realism right? how the goomba talks is fine with me....

[d34th5t4r]

C'mon I must have done something wrong. Are there really no comments?

 

Talking test: For such a simple character, this was how I thought he should talk. Ala 'Paper Mario'

gtalktest.mov

Does he need lip poses?

Let me know if you don't like it.

 

The shy-guy would've had his walk cycle almost done (minus smart-skinning) but 'paste mirrored' isn't working for some reason.

I think that the mouth movement is ok. i would have gone for a slightly more realistic jaw movement rather than scaling the whole head. When you open your mouth it's really only the lower jaw that opens.

[Nunsofamerica]

C'mon I must have done something wrong. Are there really no comments?

 

Talking test: For such a simple character, this was how I thought he should talk. Ala 'Paper Mario'

gtalktest.mov

Does he need lip poses?

Let me know if you don't like it.

 

The shy-guy would've had his walk cycle almost done (minus smart-skinning) but 'paste mirrored' isn't working for some reason.

 

 

wonnderful job chris. very much like paper mario. thats a wonderful game. wouldn't change a thing.

 

 

This, is a test. lol

[Chrury Sanson]

I think that the mouth movement is ok. i would have gone for a slightly more realistic jaw movement rather than scaling the whole head. When you open your mouth it's really only the lower jaw that opens.

 

As he is just a head, there is almost no where for his jaw to go! So it can't be quite like our mouths.

 

I get going on his lines.

[Nunsofamerica]

very true. also... when you did your jump to the side test, it was verygood, but the lights were way to bright.

[the_black_mage]

in case any one is wondering why there aren't any updates on Yoshi, I've had to put it on hold...school and all.

[Chrury Sanson]

Only a small update today. My computer got taken over when I usually do my AM work. I might just have to animate in the mornings if this keeps up.

 

Which do you prefer;

 

The chalkboard coming from the top?

boarddown.mov

 

Or the side?

boardside.mov

(careful, they're quick)

 

Of course, if you have another direction you'd like me to try (or if something's bugging you) feel free to let me know.

 

EDIT: I have no idea where that sound came from. I had the dialog muted too...

[totlover]

Only a small update today. My computer got taken over when I usually do my AM work. I might just have to animate in the mornings if this keeps up.

 

Which do you prefer;

 

The chalkboard coming from the top?

boarddown.mov

 

Or the side?

boardside.mov

(careful, they're quick)

 

Of course, if you have another direction you'd like me to try (or if something's bugging you) feel free to let me know.

 

EDIT: I have no idea where that sound came from. I had the dialog muted too...

 

you are doing a excelent job chrury

[Chrury Sanson]

Thanks, but I do need some opinions.

[Nunsofamerica]

Only a small update today. My computer got taken over when I usually do my AM work. I might just have to animate in the mornings if this keeps up.

 

Which do you prefer;

 

The chalkboard coming from the top?

boarddown.mov

 

Or the side?

boardside.mov

(careful, they're quick)

 

Of course, if you have another direction you'd like me to try (or if something's bugging you) feel free to let me know.

 

EDIT: I have no idea where that sound came from. I had the dialog muted too...

 

 

very good, I would say the board coming from the sky, but it needs a new sound. like a boom! when it hits

[Nunsofamerica]

very good chrury. I like what you have done with the mouth movements you showed me yesterday too.

[Chrury Sanson]

Update:

 

I have completed the first draft of the lip sinc for take 2. All it needs now are some secondary motions and various tweaking. I'll render it off after I stick the secondary motions in. While you wait, here's a pic of the goomba with the chalkboards new diagram. (approval pending )

 

[Nunsofamerica]

very good chris. wonderful pic too

[Nunsofamerica]

Take 3 is being written up at this time. it will involve shyguy. more of a take to express emotion without words (because Shyguy cant talk). This will need to be taken on by someone who has a talent to fitting music to "moves". lol. So there wont be much of a script. I will explain to who ever wishes to take it on.

[Ilidrake]

Just my opinion: When the board hits the ground it needs to squeeze together a bit and then kinda bounce up. I've attached a simple example. Looking good, keep up the good work.

test.mov