sonofpat Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Hi all I have been trying to create a model of niomi as a pet project to see if I can create a believable model of someone. Here is the untextured face. any comments are welcomed luv pat niomi2.jpg_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lium Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 The mesh is very smooth and seems to have a likeness of Naomi so it will be interesting to see how she comes along. Good Job Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubber Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 I can't wait to see her eyes wide open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofabutt Posted October 27, 2003 Share Posted October 27, 2003 It's been a while, is there any update to you model? (Please say yes. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 2, 2004 Author Share Posted January 2, 2004 Happy New Year Every One, I am roughing out her texture and this is what I came up with. I am not very artistic so I need all the suggestions you can give. BTW her eye lashes are a cookie cut with an alpha channel but the region of the image with tha alpha channel is not completely transparent.Any word on this (version 10.5) Sorry I took so long since the last post but I was very busy. Luv Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTalbotski Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Very good likeness! How about some more angles and a wireframe? Keep us updated, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 2, 2004 Author Share Posted January 2, 2004 Anything for you Jim. N.B I have to send each image in a post since I do not know how to send multiple images at once. Any assistance here would be nice. Here we go 1,The wire frame front view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 2, 2004 Author Share Posted January 2, 2004 2,Font view wire/rotoscope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 2, 2004 Author Share Posted January 2, 2004 3, side view of wireframe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 2, 2004 Author Share Posted January 2, 2004 4, textured Angle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTalbotski Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Very clean mesh you have going there! Just a few suggestions: Widen the cheekbones a bit more and try to avoid having the sides of the head flatten out too quickly and too much. The ears seem a little big to me. The area from the outside corner of each eye could be pull towards the back a bit more, too. Her mouth curls up in the corners also. Thanks for posting the wires, it looks very good! Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Wow that is uncanny , very nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 I like your splinage. Other than that do what Jim said . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 Hi All, I'm implementing the changes Jim Talbot suggested to the model. I'm not finished yet, but I can already see the big difference the suggestion has made. The model seems to be taking on some more character as can be seen in the image below. What a difference the touch of the master can make. Thanks again Jim Luv Patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 4, 2004 Author Share Posted January 4, 2004 sorry I attached the wrong image in the last post. Here is the correct one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypoissant Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 It seems to me that there are some more work to do with the cheek bone area. It needs to be a little bit lower and more pronounced. Try to find a 3/4 view of Naomi and tweak the cheek bone to match the photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRToonMike Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Amazing what just a few shifted splines will do, ain't it? Great Job Pat! She's looking very good and the resemblance is really there. mike r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monicadg_01 Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 I like it, I hope to see it finished with textures and everything. Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noah_brewer Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Really looking great! One thing I might say is that her eyebrows in the photo are bigger, and closer together. But who's to say that she doesn't shave them sometimes? Great job. Respectfully, Noah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lium Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 very nice work looking forward to seeing the hair,that should really give her the naomi look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 20, 2004 Author Share Posted January 20, 2004 Hi All, I have been a bit busy these days but I managed to tweak her a little. Hers are the changes 1) Pulled the corners of the eyes back,---Thanks to Jim Talbot. 2) Worked the cheek bone area,---Thanks yeve poissant I would appreciate some feed back from both of you on these. 3)Tweaked the shape of the inner eyesocket. 4)added the "pink things" to the inner corner of the eyes. The eyes look quite dead to me how can I get them to sparkle with life. Aside from minor tweaks I consider the model complete. I am focusing on texturing for now. By the end of january I should have a completely repainted texture, after which I will do the hair Here is the latest image of her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 20, 2004 Author Share Posted January 20, 2004 oops here it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted January 20, 2004 Author Share Posted January 20, 2004 wireframe side view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTalbotski Posted January 21, 2004 Share Posted January 21, 2004 That's a beautiful wireframe image! There are a lot of very good things happening in your model like her ears, but I'll just point out the few areas that I would tweak. Add some thickness to her eyelids. Maybe another spline ring around the eye where the eyelashes come out from to form a ledge where tears can rest on. The little valley that runs up from the upper lip to the nose is missing. She looks really good, but her coloring makes her look more like Tyra Banks to me. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 13, 2004 Author Share Posted February 13, 2004 Hi All, I'm currently caught up with another project that I'm dead-lined for. However, I was able to squeeze some time to work on the texture map. Here's what I've come up with so far. This is just the color map with no bump or spec map. I will add those over the weekend. Aside from a few minor tweeks on the map itself, I think I'll stick with this one. I still appreciate any suggestion on how I can improve upon it ******************************************************************** A special note to Jim Talbot - I have not yet gotton around to fixing the eye lids but I'll do so soon. Thank you very much for the suggestion ******************************************************************** Luv Patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macb Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 Hi Pat, Your model is coming along nicely, The first thing I noticed your eyes are missing is a strong hilight, I usually set up a bulb light that effects specular just for the purpose of creating a highlight on the eye... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted February 14, 2004 Share Posted February 14, 2004 She is coming along beautifully. The only problem I have is the pixalation of the decal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 15, 2004 Author Share Posted February 15, 2004 Hi All Added Bump,Ambiance and spec map,tweaked colour map. Any feed back is welcomed Luv Patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 17, 2004 Author Share Posted February 17, 2004 Just tweaked the spec maps settings to fake "subsurface scattering". From this point I consider the map finnished. If no suggestions are made by you my famous spline pals I will move on to work on the hair Luv patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZPiDER Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 the front view looks good, but the 3/4 view shows mistakes: directly next to the eyes there shouldnt be as much of a ridge. in the 3/4 view, the eyes edge should have a very thin border to the background. the cheeckbones need to move forward and outwards. the cheeck should move in a bit. check these shots for refrence: http://www.stephena.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/scans/ncamp.jpg http://media.supereva.it/bellevip/celeb/Na...ll/fash4993.jpg http://island.site.ne.jp/mjfox/filmo/image/n_campbell.jpg http://www.123.com/sp/entretenimiento/sect...d_content=88935 take note of the profile on the turned away side of the face. along the lid it moves in towards the eyes edge, then out for the cheekbone, then slightly in for the cheeck again and out for the chin. (your profile moves out at the eye, slightly in at the cheekbone and then straight to the chin) nice splineage! EDIT: huh! didnt see there was a 2nd page to the wip .. looking a lot better already, but the problem i mentioned above is still there (though not visible as stongly because her ear adds to the profile) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entity Posted February 17, 2004 Share Posted February 17, 2004 You are being quite shy with specular on the skin, punch it up! Happy shinny people! A low intensity, high size specular map in those oily parts of the face will help. Tone the red down in her skin tone and increase the red in the base model color. The specular color of the base model should go towards blue more. Your modeling looks great! Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 20, 2004 Author Share Posted February 20, 2004 Trying to fix the Jawline with a new side rotoscope Thanks to Marcel and Yves Luv Patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 20, 2004 Author Share Posted February 20, 2004 Here is the new 3/4 view Luv patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 22, 2004 Author Share Posted February 22, 2004 Fixed the nose,tweaked the mesh here and there. Luv patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 << Add some thickness to her eyelids. Maybe another spline ring around the eye where the eyelashes come out from to form a ledge where tears can rest on. The little valley that runs up from the upper lip to the nose is missing. me. Jim >>> Finaly got around to making the changes Jim Talbotski suggested and once again they made abig difference. Thanks again Jim. Luv Patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 Fixed the eye lashes, the coockie cuts' alpha channel was dark drey instead of black. Crits are always welcomed, Luv Patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 Tweaked the cheekbone luv Patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted February 24, 2004 Admin Share Posted February 24, 2004 Smashed a couple of your WIPs into one file because some of the changes are hard to follow as you scroll down the page. Hope I got them in roughly the right order: I'll keep the graphic up as long as possible and edit the link to another graphic if you say the word. Lookin' Good. I know you may not be there yet but I'd like to see her with some hair... something about bald women... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 bakerrod this project is really a self imposed exercise to lift the quality of my models. you see, i have full confidence in my ability as a modeler, but for the other artistic things such as texturing, lighting and composition, I could do with some improvement. this is why i decided to do an animatable virtual creation of a known individual and see how far i can push my texturing skills to the limit. this is because i believe the human body is the most difficult to model and texture. Most of the emhasis would be placed on the face, however since she will be clothed. In the end, i hope to produce a model with personality and character all of her own. that would be the crown jewel of my 8 years of toil in animation master. the reason for the recent changes is that the cheek bone in the original model was not accurate, but the old front rotoscope that i was using was not making it easy for me to nail it down, so i had to change it. attached is an image of both scopes. the new one is on the left. feel free to update your image sequence anytime. thanx to all for viewing. luv patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 Made the eyebrows angular. Thanks for viewing luv patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 Played with the eyebrows and bulging the top eyelids as alfiebabes suggested on another forum. I may have overdone it with the brows though. Luv Patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixie Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 cool, i really like how it's changed from the begging, small changes that over time, have made an important difference. i think maybe a little bumpier might add a touch more realism; perhaps a render lit a little dramatically to show of the features? why blue eyes?!! regards -- Nixie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 26, 2004 Author Share Posted February 26, 2004 thank you chris, The changes you suggested are already in the "pipeline" but I do not have as much time now to work on the model as I did over the weekend (we celebrated carnival in Trinidad and Tobago up tuesday) so thing will go a bit slower now. However you will see some changes by next week. Luv Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 29, 2004 Author Share Posted February 29, 2004 hi all, just did a quick hair test with naomi using an image mapped hair style. nothing complete yet, obviously it still needs some tweeking. i was so surprised at how good it turned out, thought i would let you all see. in her initial pose, which is based on a photo of her, she'd be wearing a hat so some of the hair would be hidden. your critiques are always welcomed. luv, patos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted February 29, 2004 Author Share Posted February 29, 2004 Changed eye colour Different hair style Luv Patos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted March 1, 2004 Author Share Posted March 1, 2004 Hat Test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacktaich Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 smaller lips, white shiny teeth and a big smile would make this a million times better (and that saying a lot considering how good it already is). You could just close her mouth for starters. Her neck is bothering me a bit too, I suggest some more solid reference of female necks. Zackt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacktaich Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofpat Posted May 26, 2004 Author Share Posted May 26, 2004 Hi all, Here are some shots naomi's body for your comments (warning academic nudity) I am sorry for taking so long to post but I had a run in with Murphie's Law that took my system down for a while.The ordeal has sapped all my zeal for modeling and texturing so am trying to rig her right now. I will post some images of a new shoulder setup I am testing over the week end. Luv Patos. Here is the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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