Dhar Posted January 21, 2006 Posted January 21, 2006 Robert, there's not enough information on what you're doing that can help us help you. Take screen capts of your render settings so we can see what's going on. Quote
Robert-Jank Posted January 21, 2006 Posted January 21, 2006 I would.....unfortunatly ive just recently gotten a mac....how do i do a screen capt on them? Quote
Robert-Jank Posted January 21, 2006 Posted January 21, 2006 OK im going to split my movies into two sections itll work this way Name: Micah Jank Exercise completed: #7 Can you Say that Date completed: January 21, 2006 Commets: A little fast.....i really need to work on speed... Keekat_talk.mov Keekat_talk2.mov Quote
Atomike Posted February 16, 2006 Posted February 16, 2006 Mike Dalton Exercise 7 Completed: Feb 16th 2006 On this one, I didn't use the dopesheet at all. I really like the "Henson" theory of lip-sync - Jim Henson had 2 phenomes (open & closed) for his mouth movement, and it worked fine. For this animation, I used the "A" phenome for all mouth movement, with a few exceptions. I added a slight sneer on the "s" in the two uses of "secret", and also used the "D" phenome I believe to make two "O" sounds - during "you" and "so". Other than those 4 changes, it's all just the A phenome in various degrees. Comments are welcome. If possible, this thread at least needs to allow 2mb of file uploads. Not much point in posting a 1mb file with audio. You can hardly make out that it's KeeKat, much less critique the animation. Ah well. secret_small.mov Quote
noewjook Posted February 17, 2006 Posted February 17, 2006 Well Mike I like the way you have done this.I think I am going to experiment with the "Jim Henson" theory as well . I am a bit surprised with the size of your movie file.I have made my test animations with the "sorenson 3"codec for quicktime and the files are small and the quality is very acceptable. Quote
TeresaNord Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 Okay I'm back. Here's the screenshot. This screenshot was taken after I entered the words into the dope sheet. As you can see, the words don't appear underneath the sound, so I don't know where they went. I've followed the AM book word for word up to this point, so I'm not sure what's going on. Help?[attachmentid=14881] edit: okay, since this I found the dope sheet in the project workspace, but I still don't know how to get the words on the time line in order to position them. Ivegotasecret.doc Quote
TeresaNord Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 Here's the screen shot with the project workspace.[attachmentid=14882] ivegotasecret2.doc Quote
Robert-Jank Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 Teresa, press "Command, Shift, and 3" if you wnat to take a snap shot. Quote
TeresaNord Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 Umm, that's what I did. Is it not showing up in the attachment? Oh wait I think I did command, control, shift, 3. Here I'll try it again. [attachmentid=14897] ivegotasecret2.doc Quote
Robert-Jank Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 why is it in word though? cant you just upload the picture itself? Quote
TeresaNord Posted March 5, 2006 Posted March 5, 2006 I don't know? I went to add this attachment and then add this to post, because it wouldn't let me paste the picture. I pasted it in word, because I don't have a paint program. Edited: Sorry, I think I just figured out what you meant, here it goes. . . [attachmentid=14912] Edited: ugh, that didn't work either. Sorry, I think I'll just skip this exercise and come back to it at the end! Picture_1.pdf Quote
bobkoonce Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Completed exercise 7 Sorry it is out of order from my previous exercise posts, but I am haveing some trouble getting the keyframes to work right on Exercise 6 Name: Bob Koonce Exercise Completed: Exercise 7: Can You Say That? Date Completed: 3-7-06 Instructor: None at this time Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: Animation sure can be taxing. Any comments will be appreciated Thankx, Bob Koonce Quote
Leo73 Posted March 11, 2006 Posted March 11, 2006 Bob, I wouldn't worry about doing the tutorials out of order. I did most of mine that way. I would do the easy ones first and then go back and work on the harder ones last. It took me a few months before I even finished the dreaded Exercise 6. In regards to this one, I like what you did with the eyes. You are right though, animation can be very tedious and sometimes very time consuming. But then if it was easy, everyone would be doing it. I personal love the technicanl side of it, laying out the animation and doing it and then going in and tweaking it to make it perfect. But thats me, just being twisted in the mind. Once again good job, Leo Quote
TeresaNord Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 I think I'm just the opposite Leo! I really liked exercise 6, but now I can't do the easy ones??? ahh jeez, frustrating Quote
Leo73 Posted March 14, 2006 Posted March 14, 2006 Teresa, Take your time. Sometimes you have to just take a step back and get away and then come back with fresh eyes. Lucky for me my wife isn't an artist. This way I can show her stuff and get feedback from her. She doesn't look at it the same way we all do. Believe me, I know the easy stuff can be frustrating sometimes. I am currently working on the bootcamps and am tweaking the two balls bouncing across the screen. It's easy enough in theory but there is actually alot that goes into. I will prevail though. Good luck, Leo Quote
stinkyu111 Posted March 19, 2006 Posted March 19, 2006 Name: Stephen Molloy Exercise #7 Date: March 19 2006 Instructor : online video and book Remarks: i had to make a few changes to the Kat to make easier to render ( i deleted all the materials and coloured the skin .....this made a huge time difference from 9 hours to 22 mins ...i also turned reflections off) i did have a problem with sound and have no idea how to fix. now the sound is playing only on the left side in the rendered video ....(it plays in both sides in the project)...and another weird thing is if you hit the rewind button on the Quicktime the sound is playing in the rightside. Has anyone else had problems with sound playback ... ps the sound was set at default stereo 44,100 hz .... in V12 t Secret_talk.zip Quote
Robert-Jank Posted March 19, 2006 Posted March 19, 2006 For quick renders use real time with sorensen video 3 Quote
stinkyu111 Posted March 21, 2006 Posted March 21, 2006 For quick renders use real time with sorensen video 3 Thanks again Robert-Jank ( on the short cutting rendering time ) i think i solved my sound problem ....A.M. on my PC is somehow putting all the sound on the left ( and if you rewind in play mode on Qtime the Rightside sound is there too) so i have Qtime pro6.5 ...i exported the movie ( in mono ) and poof i have sound in both sides i tried the same project in V11 V12 and in V13 alpha 9 i got the same sound quality ( even with stereo not checked off ) weird bug sm Secret_talk_2.zip Quote
Leo73 Posted March 23, 2006 Posted March 23, 2006 Stephen, Good job despite the audio problems you were having. Your animation came out good, but does seem a little stiff in the body when KeeKat walks. Also when he is talking, only his head and hands are moving. The rest of the body could have used some subtle movement, like adding some secondary motion to his tail to help convey his emotions a little more. Just my .02 though Keep up the good work Leo Quote
mfortunato Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Hi All - I have completed ex. 7 and thus finished the animation section of the tutorials - WOO HOO! Of course I have a LONG way to go before I've mastered (heck, before I'm even proficient) with animating using A:M. But it's a start. I'm excited to move on to modeling so that I can begin creating my own creations and learn how to animate them. Name: Michael Fortunato Exercise Completed: Ex. 7, Can you say that? (completed ex. 1 - 7) Date Completed: 03-24-2006 Instructor: Art of A:M Remarks: Keykat is adorable. And as such, I felt he needed a "cuter" voice to be telling us about a secret. So I recorded the voiceover with my own voice (digitally modified). This made my wife laugh every time she saw Keykat animated. So I hope you enjoy it too. Thanks. - Michael Ex7_CanYouSayThat_MichaelFortunato.zip Quote
Leo73 Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Michael, First off, great job in taking it to the next level with using your own voice. There are a few things that kinda stick out though. The feel of the voice gives me the impression of a mechanical creature almost. Also the mouth movements seem to move faster than the actual sound. The last thing I can say(and I was guilty of this and still am at times) is when your animating, you want to try not to leave your character static for too long. Even subtle movements in the tail and hips can go a long way to adding more realism to him. These are just my opinions though. Over all nice job, good luck with the rest of the exercises Leo Quote
mfortunato Posted March 24, 2006 Posted March 24, 2006 Michael, First off, great job in taking it to the next level with using your own voice. There are a few things that kinda stick out though. The feel of the voice gives me the impression of a mechanical creature almost. Also the mouth movements seem to move faster than the actual sound. The last thing I can say(and I was guilty of this and still am at times) is when your animating, you want to try not to leave your character static for too long. Even subtle movements in the tail and hips can go a long way to adding more realism to him. These are just my opinions though. Over all nice job, good luck with the rest of the exercises Leo Thanks for the comments, Leo! Listening to it, you're right, it's a little mechanical. I could give the voice more life. Whisper it more, perhaps. And, yeah, something weird happened with the dope sheet link to the actual voice file and Keykat. When I move the words on the dope sheet around, they do not affect keykat anymore. I figured I must have moved something to the wrong group, so I'll keep playing with that until I can fix it. Lastly, you are so right about the subtle movements. I felt his lower body was too stiff as well. I think I'll go back to this one tonight and see if I can make those corrections. Thanks again! - Michael Quote
jbooker Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 Name: John Booker Exercise #7 Can You Say That Date: April 08, 2006 Instructor : Manual http://media.putfile.com/Kit-Kat-Animation Quote
Leo73 Posted April 8, 2006 Posted April 8, 2006 John, Good job on this one. I think it came out good with the added facial animation that you put in. I just think the arms moving slowly from beginning to end could be tweaked a little. Keep up the good work. Quote
cuboos Posted April 10, 2006 Posted April 10, 2006 name: sam wiley well you know every thing els Quote
Admin Rodney Posted April 10, 2006 Author Admin Posted April 10, 2006 well you know every thing els Shhh... its a secret. Well done Sam. That you brought some interaction and secondary animation in this exericse says a lot about your insight into animation. Quote
Wolf Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 Ok I didn't do the tut as is in the book, Idid it as it says to though, anyway I have a problem, and I know it's me but everything works fine in the cho. but when I render to final my sound clip is sped up and the lipsync is off ..... any ideas on how to fix this? Quote
Admin Rodney Posted April 12, 2006 Author Admin Posted April 12, 2006 You might experiment with exporting to different codecs. Sorensen 3 seems to be a favorite. Quote
Wolf Posted April 12, 2006 Posted April 12, 2006 ok we'll try that one and let you know how it turns out Quote
Wolf Posted April 13, 2006 Posted April 13, 2006 Where do I find Sorensen 3 codec Never mind found it under QT, but alas still have the problem of the audio clip speeding up in the render Quote
Leo73 Posted April 14, 2006 Posted April 14, 2006 Wolf, Your best bet would be to zip your project up and upload it here, so someone can take a look to see what the problem with your audio is. Quote
tysono_71 Posted April 18, 2006 Posted April 18, 2006 Name: Tyson Oswald Exercise #7 Can You Say That Date: April 17, 2006 Instructor : Manual URL : EX7 It's not exactly what I wanted to do, but with my skill level so far I like it. I had to toy around a lot to get the motion the way I sort of wanted. His arm movement I admit could be better, and his feet are pretty stationary. I do like the head motion at the end. Perhaps afer I get some more practice I will attempt it again. Overall I found it to be a fun exercise. I had issues at first with the dope sheet and the timeline. After I upgraded to Tiger that all seemed to go away. later, Quote
cuboos Posted April 19, 2006 Posted April 19, 2006 that one was good it was vary well dose and animated Quote
Dan_The_Man Posted April 25, 2006 Posted April 25, 2006 Can you keep a secret. [attachmentid=16262] I__vegotasecret1Mbps_Stream001.mov Quote
dborruso Posted April 25, 2006 Posted April 25, 2006 Pretty Decent Looking. The lipsynch looks correct for the most part and the use of the eyes is good. I dont know why the eye passes through the eyelid briefly but that is not your fault. You will have to deal with stuff like that later. I would have liked to see more use of the body and secondary action but that's just me and how I did the exercise. I was already using the program for a while though before I did the exercise so maybe that is too much for you now, I don't know. But you did a good job. Be proud Quote
JohnnyB Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 John Bailey Exercise 7: Can You Say That July 20, 2006 http://media.putfile.com/Secret-78-12 Ta daa Quote
ytsorf7 Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Name: Bruce Winn Date: July 23, 2006 Exercises completed: 7 Here is exercise 7. "I've Got A Secret" http://www.thebeatnews.org/Exercise7.mov Quote
Neu_Type Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Name: James M Glover Exercise Completed: Exercise 7 Date Completed: 23 July, 2006 Edit: Opps, file was too big... [attachmentid=18678] Exercise_7.zip Quote
Joe Gamblin Posted August 5, 2006 Posted August 5, 2006 Date Completed: 5 August, 2006 Had to zip it to make it fit. Comments: The head shake at the end is too robot-like, but I am fairly happy with it. After doing this project I really, really feel sorry for traditional animators doing lip synch. Canyousaythat.zip Quote
LurkerAbove Posted August 15, 2006 Posted August 15, 2006 Name: Glen Clarkson Exercise: 7. Can you say that? Date Completed: 8/14/2006 Observations: Wow, the secondary features really help Shh! Quote
snowdawg Posted August 25, 2006 Posted August 25, 2006 Hi guys. I jumped ahead one lesson here cause I wanted to play around with lesson 7 a bit, but I am getting an error. Cant find the dictionary.dic file when I load the dope sheet. I know the video tutorial said it was on the cd, but I can’t find it there either. I did a search on both the disk and my hard drive but I don’t seem to have this file. Does anybody know more about this? I have the Am version 12 upgraded to v13e. Appreciate any help you can give me. Update: After hunting around in Hash Inc.'s ftp site I located the file that was missing. it seems to be working fine now. Back to playing around with it. Quote
Torak Posted September 2, 2006 Posted September 2, 2006 Name: Shane O'Sullivan Exercise Completed: Exercise 7 Date Completed: Sept 2, 2006 Instructor: None / Manual and Online Video tutorial Remarks/Suggestions for Improvement: exercise 7 Quote
Lori Hiatt Posted September 27, 2006 Posted September 27, 2006 Name Lori Hiatt Date September 27, 2006 Exercise 7: Can you say That? Used video tut and manual The first D in didn't was at the end of the word at first was able to change it but not perfect. Oh well. secret.mov Quote
Tralfaz Posted October 1, 2006 Posted October 1, 2006 Here is my completed exercise 7. I had to zip the .mov file as it was just over 4 MByte in size. The audio was tweaked a bit in Audacity and the background layer was an image Googled and downloaded from the internet ('3Drt.com'). Since Halloween is fast approaching, I was trying for a slightly spooky atmosphere. Name: Al Dinelt Exercise Completed: Exercise 7: Can You Say That? Date Completed: October 1, 2006 Instructor: TAoA:M and a bit of experimenting... [attachmentid=21015] [attachmentid=21016] exercise_7.zip Quote
jpappas Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 Name: Jim Pappas Exercise Completed: Exercise 7 Date Completed: Oct. 2 Instructor: AM forums, tutorials Remarks: still plugging away! I can see that certificate getting closer! This is KeeKat's side job, as a voice actor. got_a_secret_2.mov Quote
Tralfaz Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 Hi Jim: That was a great video. I have watched it several times and laughed each time. Really well done. The only thing I noticed is the left arm seems to jump as it moves up towards the right arm the first time. Other than that, the animation looked really smooth and the facial expressions were great. Al Quote
jpappas Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 Hi Al, Yup, you're absolutely right! I think I was so wrapped up in getting that last part in, his 'Soprano' take, that I didn't go back for another clean-up. Actually, there's probably a dozen other things too, but I'm bad that way, I could go over the same short animation forever and never call it done. That spot with the arm is the transition between a Chor Action and a KeeKat Action, and I really should have used more frames for it. -Jim Quote
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