*A:M User* Roger Posted November 8, 2016 *A:M User* Posted November 8, 2016 Was watching Moonraker tonight after work and I ran across something really odd. As I remember, the henchman Jaws had a love interest, Dolly. Now, that's not the odd thing, the odd thing is her appearance. This is how I remember it: right after the tram car crashes into the building, Dolly comes to check on Jaws, he emerges from the wreckage and smiles at her. She smiles back...revealing a set of braces. That was the whole joke, was that they had mouths full of metal and it was love at first sight. Except in the copy I was watching, there were no braces. And when I did a Google image search on her, also no braces. Does anyone else remember this movie the way I do? I could be mistaken but I could have sworn she had braces. I suppose it could have been digitally altered, my copy is a 50th anniversary DVD copy, but it does seem odd to me. Anyone have an old copy of Moonraker or remember the character as having braces? Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted November 8, 2016 Hash Fellow Posted November 8, 2016 I thought there were braces but it seems we are all remembering it wrong?There are some videos on the web where people play old VHS copies with no braces but that doesn't end the argument. Quote
detbear Posted November 8, 2016 Posted November 8, 2016 When I think of Moonraker, I think of the guy with the metal teeth. Quote
*A:M User* Roger Posted November 8, 2016 Author *A:M User* Posted November 8, 2016 I suspect that it was digitally altered but would have to step through it frame-by-frame and I'm not sure I could prove it even then. The actress has gone on record saying that she did not wear braces for the part, yet I clearly remember seeing her in braces when I saw Moonraker on Turner Classic Movies at one point. Maybe my memory is bad but I don't think so. Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted November 8, 2016 Hash Fellow Posted November 8, 2016 Without the braces, there's no joke there!I guess we were all imaging better jokes than the movie really had.Someone should get that actress and stick her in a cameo in one of the new Bonds, with braces, just to make things right.They should start making funny Bonds again, too. Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted November 8, 2016 Hash Fellow Posted November 8, 2016 Found on the web... Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted November 8, 2016 Hash Fellow Posted November 8, 2016 I guess this is her today... Quote
Admin Rodney Posted November 8, 2016 Admin Posted November 8, 2016 My memory is that the girl wearing braces was the whole point of the scene; Jaws had finally found someone like him. He'd found his place. Without the braces the scene ceases to resonate. Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted November 9, 2016 Hash Fellow Posted November 9, 2016 If there never were braces, that's a pretty damning indictment of memory and eye witnesses and such. Quote
*A:M User* Roger Posted November 9, 2016 Author *A:M User* Posted November 9, 2016 If there never were braces, that's a pretty damning indictment of memory and eye witnesses and such. Maybe. But I'm betting it was doctored after the fact. Quote
largento Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 I don't remember the braces, myself, but I doubt they would have digitally removed them. I recently watched the extras on the 50th anniversary blu-ray set and no mention was made of it. There is a weird thing where the brain sometimes writes the punchline for you. Back in the 90s, I remember posting on the Douglas Adams newsgroups about the fact that I had originally mis-read Ford Prefect's name a Ford Perfect. Several people posted to say they had done the exact same thing. The Ford Prefect joke was lost on us Americans who didn't know that it was a car. So, we thought the joke was that he had named himself "perfect." Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted November 9, 2016 Hash Fellow Posted November 9, 2016 My first exposure was the radio play so I heard "Prefect" and thought it must some sort of joke but knew not why. Quote
largento Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 I started with the novel and the first time I noticed it was "Prefect" I think I thought it was a typo and was surprised to see that I'd been reading it wrong the entire time. In Googling, I did find a guy who checked an early VHS copy of Moonraker and confirmed the braces weren't there. There certainly wasn't the ability to digitally remove the braces in the early 1980s. http://www.the007dossier.com/007dossier/post/2016/09/25/Moonraker-and-the-Mandela-Effect I've seen reference to this "Mandela Effect" which appears to be the brain misfiring (similar to Deja Vu) and making you think that something you remember one way turns out to be another way and it's like the universe somehow changed. Of course, just like people think Deja Vu is a paranormal thing, people think the Mandela Effect is the merging of alternate universes. Quote
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted November 9, 2016 Hash Fellow Posted November 9, 2016 I'm persuaded the braces were never there but it is a staggering revelation. Quote
*A:M User* Roger Posted November 9, 2016 Author *A:M User* Posted November 9, 2016 I don't think we all switched over to an alternate universe but I am positive that character had braces. Quote
tysono_71 Posted November 9, 2016 Posted November 9, 2016 I remember braces but maybe it's been replaced in my memory by the image in the digital version. I would have to look. Quote
pixelplucker Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 She did have braces in the movie theater version I saw. Maybe someone made a bootleg version out of the cutting room scraps? Quote
*A:M User* Roger Posted December 13, 2016 Author *A:M User* Posted December 13, 2016 Nope, anniversary DVD is the same way. Quote
Tore Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) . Edited April 19, 2018 by Tore Quote
CaptBobo Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 I definitely remember the braces -- I think that was the original point of their meeting -- they had something in common. Quote
CaptBobo Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 A quick informal poll of co-workers suggests that some remember braces and others do not. How strange! Quote
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