Darkwing Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 This is a very fascinating article and deals with something I've thought about for several years now. Sadly, this is really more American driven because when they talk about the extensive libraries of movies and stuff, they're definitely not talking about Canada... Though Canada's Netflix has gotten better, it still has a ways to go before it even gets to America Netflix's level. All in all, interesting stuff that might (or might not) allow more creativity and heck, maybe even more opportunity for independent up and comings to make a stake for themselves! http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/netfl...-59526?page=0,0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted October 24, 2012 Hash Fellow Share Posted October 24, 2012 I have almost completely stopped watching broadcast TV so there is that change. I had Netflix streaming for a while but there wasn't much I wanted to watch on it. Most of the movies i wanted to see (old classics, foreign language films, music related) tended to be DVD-only so that is the version of NetFlix I have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwing Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 Ironically, old films and foreign films were more of what Canada got (which I'm totally OK with, love old films) however I'm typically a DVD purchaser myself. I know I'm of an ever dwindling breed wh still purchases like every movie they watch. That and my internet speed is quite atrocious and I get the nice fuzzy and low res version of whatever I watch on Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Edmondson Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I have almost completely stopped watching broadcast TV so there is that change. I had Netflix streaming for a while but there wasn't much I wanted to watch on it. Most of the movies i wanted to see (old classics, foreign language films, music related) tended to be DVD-only so that is the version of NetFlix I have now. Robert A friend sent me this link the other day which may be of interest ? Its supposed to be a free link to watching independent films ( legally I think ). I haven't tried it yet as busy with other stuff but when I looked it there seemed to be a high number of foreign language films. Which was great for me ! regards simon http://www.indiemoviesonline.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 The site is currently not available due to technical problems. Please try again later. Thank you for your understanding. I had to try it...... I have almost completely stopped watching broadcast TV so there is that change. I had Netflix streaming for a while but there wasn't much I wanted to watch on it. Most of the movies i wanted to see (old classics, foreign language films, music related) tended to be DVD-only so that is the version of NetFlix I have now. Robert A friend sent me this link the other day which may be of interest ? Its supposed to be a free link to watching independent films ( legally I think ). I haven't tried it yet as busy with other stuff but when I looked it there seemed to be a high number of foreign language films. Which was great for me ! regards simon http://www.indiemoviesonline.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Edmondson Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 The site is currently not available due to technical problems. Please try again later. Thank you for your understanding. I had to try it...... Mike Apologies. It was working yesterday and there were a lot of French films available. A particular interest of mine. simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 No need to Apol. I was hoping it worked , maybe I'll try again later........sounds interesting......love movies.. ITS Working now !!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largento Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 My interest is in whether or not these outfits will be a new market for independent original programming. Netflix is dipping its toe into that, but so far with only established products and producers. Of course, these companies are going to have to play fair. This was posted by the developer of a web series: So, I was contacted by one of the 3 Big Networks in reference to a web pilot I created, produced, wrote, directed. They are offering me 600 dollars (600 bucks). For this sum of 600 bucks they get: A) Ownership, title and rights to the actual already filmed and produced (out of my own pocket) pilot. Ownership, title and rights to the concept and design of the pilot and series pitch. C) The creation of a new 6-episodes, pitch bible, stroyboards, and other "pitch or development materials." D) I waive my rights of "droit morale." E) There is no mention anywhere in contract of using me as development, consultant or executive producer should the series make it into production. F) No mention of credit, compensation or engagement for me should the series be proliferated into other mediums like traditional television. G) And they list me as "DESIGNER" rather than "CREATOR" of my original pilot and the subsequent materials. The fellow spent more than $600 of his own money making the pilot. Obviously, he's not going to agree to a deal like this, but it just goes to show how cutthroat these places can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted October 25, 2012 Hash Fellow Share Posted October 25, 2012 The internet was supposed to give us all equal access to the audience but it's not turning out that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsjustme Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 The internet was supposed to give us all equal access to the audience but it's not turning out that way. I think the access to viewers is there (as far as numbers go), but you won't get paid for it (usually). There are a few (very few though) "success" stories. The lesson I learned a long time ago: "You can do anything you want if you are willing to do it for free." I've seen many examples of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted October 25, 2012 Admin Share Posted October 25, 2012 I equate some of this with comic book publishing in that when I was coming up the big dream (for many people in the circles I frequented) was to publish your own comic book... but the cost was prohibitive and the knowledge of how to get it done was hit or miss. Now with the internet the ability and knowledge are no longer obstacles and yet we (or I should say 'I') still don't publish. Why is that? I'm convinced that to a great extent we are enticed by the idea of achieving more than that of the achievement itself. Breaking through all of that and just telling the stories you want to tell is a good beginning but for many we've added a new enticement to the mix that wasn't a primary motivator before... that of making money at it. A certain amount of money is necessary for well being and sustainability alone (meeting basic needs) but beyond that the pursuit of money often becomes a barrier to our own creativity. The difference between creativity and commercial art is that you have to direct your attention and focus your effort on things that will make money... i.e. commercial properties. Most prefer to work on non commercial ideas because that is where the fun and freedom is. Commercialism on the other hand is more often than not seen as a betrayal of the very essence of that dream; to love what you are doing to the point where you don't care whether you make any money at it. It's an interesting paradox but more than that I think it represents a crisis in self confidence. It's hard to be creative when you constantly and consistently doubt your own instincts in creativity. Back on topic for a moment... I don't watch TV these days. I have three TVs and since moving in over a month ago to our new house we have yet to plug any of them in. Many of the shows that are playing now are entertaining but very few are of interest to me personally. They don't connect with me. It's interesting to note that there is a parallel between what I just outlined as a problem with the old 'let's make our own comic books' theme and what we are seeing today with regard to TV and that is that everyone is hoping to make money doing it but there is a limited pool of money available and only so much time to devote to consuming entertainment. We have an over abundance of choice in our ability to select our own entertainment. This will continue to grow even as more and more options become available. One wonders if at some point the current efforts won't arrive at the point where TV was decades ago where sponsors paid for the content and viewers watched everything that was available for free. Interestingly, this has become an alien concept where before it was considered the only way to proceed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted October 25, 2012 Hash Fellow Share Posted October 25, 2012 The difference between creativity and commercial art is that you have to direct your attention and focus your effort on things that will make money... i.e. commercial properties. Most prefer to work on non commercial ideas because that is where the fun and freedom is. Something I noted as a trombone player was that the playing you got paid for was never as interesting as the playing you didn't get get paid for. And that's when I stopped being a free-lance trombone player. unrelated... an image search for a "trombone" gif also turns up several images of paper clips . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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