detbear Posted August 8, 2016 Share Posted August 8, 2016 Hey Everyone. After more animation, R&D, models, effects, and everything else that gets things to the finish line...... I completed and published another Animation. Thanks for all your support!!! Link: xhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ3SDajqsYc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted August 9, 2016 Admin Share Posted August 9, 2016 Nice. That made me thirsty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuchur Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 very cool and unexpected . Very well done . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted August 9, 2016 Admin Share Posted August 9, 2016 Fuchur said: nd unexpected Most definitely. I wasn't expecting to see another episode of these guys for quite awhile. Kevin, it looks like you've got the workflow and production scheduling thing down. I'm hoping you'll reveal some big secret to your process besides hard work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detbear Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 Hey Guys. Thanks so much. I will reveal my ULTRA, CLANDESTINE, TOP SECRET in my next post below this one......... ................ ............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detbear Posted August 9, 2016 Author Share Posted August 9, 2016 The Big secret is NO SLEEP. Working long hours. Hee Hee. Just a bunch of sleep loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detbear Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 Hey Everyone. Checkin' back in here. Thanks for all your support. Rodney asked about my process in a previous post here. There are some practical steps to get a short animation done with decent quality. ANIMATION: Animation itself is an art that you never perfect, but force yourself forward and improve. In many cases time impacts the quality. just a few seconds of animation can take a week if you place high quality time on it. But many times, getting things finished, keeps you from polishing everything at that level. Thus, animation is an individual endeavor and limited to a person's experience and skill. THINKING AHEAD: I always think about a shot in terms of what will look great and take the least amount of time. Often, I envision certain things that take more time.....but decide that it is worth it to do in order to make it better. QUICK ADVICE: MOVING CAMERAS will increase the post production time dramatically. This is because backgrounds and effects will need to be rendered on every frame instead of having a single image. So unless the camera move is absolutely necessary, figure out a good angle composite and keep it still. QUICK composite tip: Make your camera focus slightly wider and then in a composite program you will have enough rendered area outside the frame to move the image to get some slight, fake camera motions. This works great for shakes during explosions also. COMPOSITE RENDERS: I always render in layers. This requires a strategy in A:M because it doesn't happen automatically. You need to choose a way to get your desired layers rendered. HERE are the things I render on layers: 1.Characters only render 2.props 3.background 4.shadows(Sometimes for each character separately) 5.Ambiant occlusion(Most of the time I capture this along with the shadows) HOW I GET SHADOWS ONLY without using EXR format: 1.I convert every model, prop, and background to white(no textures, groups, colors). 2.I set their falloff to 0%... 3.VERY IMPORTANT.....Set all the lights to white color so that they don't colorshade things. 4. For each model that is not receiving shadows, I set the options to this: Front Projection=ON Flat Shaded=ON Recieve Shadows=OFF Cast Shadows=ON Shadows Only=OFF Cast Occlusion=ON For the surface receiving the shadows: Front Projection=ON Flat Shaded=ON Recieve Shadows=ON Cast Shadows=OFF Shadows Only=OFF Cast Occlusion=OFF IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT, IMPORTANT: This will result in a "White render with Black shadows" most of the time. You must bring that into a program like After Effects and set the layer mode to "Multiply." Make sure the shadow layer is on top of the character layers. This will make the white areas transparent and the shadows and occlusion will remain. SHADOW LIGHTS: Use Z-buffered lights if you can and only have one light casting shadows. AMBIANT OCCLUSION: Use the SBAO all you can. HOWEVER....This will increase anomallys if you have heavy motion blur OR Depth of Field on your camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bigboote Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Great toon- great advice! I taught my nieces to call it 'shiver-brains' instead of 'brain-freeze'. The payoff came one day when they were with their mother in public drinking cold slushies... 'I've got shiver-brains, I've got SHIVER BRAINS!' 'WHO told you to call it that?' she demanded... 'Uncle Matt did, why?'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted August 13, 2016 Hash Fellow Share Posted August 13, 2016 That looks real good, Kevin. I especially like the running slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted August 13, 2016 Admin Share Posted August 13, 2016 Thanks for the follow up on your process, Kevin. It's always illuminating to see how folks work in production. Not to cherry pick just one of your highlights but the bit about the moving camera is likely one I need to watch for in my own efforts. As with most things in life, I either have too little or too much. That element of defining the extreme parameters of productivity easily eludes me (particularly in finishing a work)... of finding just the right amount of detail/polish to say, "enough". That's where that 'Thinking Ahead' and having/sticking to a plan certainly can pay off. Many have said it before and I know it has been repeated by some our highly productive forum members that a work isn't so much finished as it is abandoned at some given point. I may have taken that concept of abandoning project a bit too literal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Mr detbear, How much time it took you to complete this GREAT animation short? I really would like to have a living doing animation shorts, one after another one, it would be plausible to monetize this kind of work, and time spent, to make a living of this... and be like a "little Pixar" making little "productions", one after another one, and making money from it, at least for a "simple living" not a "celebrity one"? --- That really would be my ideal work in life... (Of course with a very "optimized" Workflow, to have a living apart of this... ) Great work again!!! Great Animation!!! Mr detbear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detbear Posted August 14, 2016 Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 Thanks guys. Means a bunch to hear your feedback. MANUEL.......That production which runs a little over one minute, took me almost two weeks to complete from story to finish. But the characters and some elements had already been finished on a previous video. The lighting and re-arranging took a decent amount of time because I light every shot individually. Animation is always difficult and I find myself working in a "Straight Ahead" animated style rather than a "Pose to Pose". But that is because of the fast nature of getting things finished. The snow had to be done in post and separately for every shot. The backgrounds for much of it is a still image doctored up and animated in After Effects. I pull out a bunch of tricks from my many years of producing animation, so it's hard to recall everything at once. I have a real unorthodoxed method in a way. MANUEL.....Don't give up, and don't be afraid to make a bad animation. You have to just Do it!!! And then try it again. Sometimes things work well, and sometimes they don't work at all. ALSO.....The most important part is the final render. So post production and editing are very important. Sound, Color overlays, brightness, music, effects, ........they all play an important role. Just do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largento Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Great job, Kevin! Kudos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Thank you Mr detbear, for take your time to share your tips, tricks, advices and workflow... it is really valuable for people who is learning like me, and thank you for encourage me to advance in this wonderful art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detbear Posted August 15, 2016 Author Share Posted August 15, 2016 Manuel......No problem. I'm happy to help. Keep at it. This is a great forum with a bunch of good artists. Very helpful. A:M is amazing software that can get a project produced by an individual. You should work on a short story/ film. Even if it's under a minute. Start a you Tube channel and post it. Then build from there. Keep it as simple as possible with simple props and backgrounds. Focus on the story. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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