fae_alba Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Thought I'd share. Here's the scene I'm working on for the insect contest. i have my insect character very nearly done, but wanted to get the staging scene done first. I still need to get some sort of fogging added since I'm going for a film noir feel. I've surprised myself with the lighting, guess you really can teach an old dog new tricks. Any suggestions, let me have em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted July 22, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 22, 2015 Looking vry good! No suggestions here other than perhaps to dirty up the places where objects meet (brick wall and ground.... trash can and ground). Perhaps that can be accomplished through rendering with SSAO (or AO) but mostly just to break up the smoothness of those lines. If all part of the general style then disregard. I've started four or five insect related images and finished none. Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 I would expect the inside to be illuminated as well, and can't quite get it there. It's a klieg light right now, but perhaps I need to experiment with a bulb instead. You can have one kleig pointing down at the ground and another pointing up just to illuminate the light shade. That way you can adjust each one's brightness separately for desired effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsjustme Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Looks great so far, Paul! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 22, 2015 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 22, 2015 I would expect the inside to be illuminated as well, and can't quite get it there. It's a klieg light right now, but perhaps I need to experiment with a bulb instead. You can have one kleig pointing down at the ground and another pointing up just to illuminate the light shade. That way you can adjust each one's brightness separately for desired effect. Sorry, Paul! I meant to reply to your post but edited it instead... If you can remember what you wrote and want to repost it that would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 I would expect the inside to be illuminated as well, and can't quite get it there. It's a klieg light right now, but perhaps I need to experiment with a bulb instead. You can have one kleig pointing down at the ground and another pointing up just to illuminate the light shade. That way you can adjust each one's brightness separately for desired effect. Sorry, Paul! I meant to reply to your post but edited it instead... If you can remember what you wrote and want to repost it that would be great. you want me to remember something?!? Oh that's a hoot an a half! I was lamenting my lack of fog and the fact that the klieg light wasn't illuminating the inside of the lamp shade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Here's a quick update to the scene....still no fog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 23, 2015 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 23, 2015 Try increasing the shadow "darkness" of the light coming from the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted July 23, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 23, 2015 You aren't talking about volumetrics are you? It doesn't look like you've got that turned on in your shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Here it is with volumetrics on the klieg light in the fixture. Might just roll with it for now. I've still got to texture my bad guy insect (you can see the beginnings of him in the wanted poster). I'll see how the scene feels once I've got him added to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detbear Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Hey Paul. I have a texture suggestion that might give it a bit more realism. I think throughout all the objects this could improve your image but especially the brick wall. It would look more believable if you placed a "dirt/ grunge" overlay on it. It appears very uniformly textured. If you added an overlay to give it a shaded look that is not the same throughout, it would appear more natural. You could create a PNG in Photoshop and stamp it across the surface. Kindof like a shadow but with a "grungy look." That wall looks like it would have some "grime" and "gook" on it. Same goes for the light shade...But the wall is most noticeable. Looks like a really nice composition. Lighting will look better also.....if you add shaded texturing onto those surfaces. Otherwise they will seem flat shaded a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 Hey Paul. I have a texture suggestion that might give it a bit more realism. I think throughout all the objects this could improve your image but especially the brick wall. It would look more believable if you placed a "dirt/ grunge" overlay on it. It appears very uniformly textured. If you added an overlay to give it a shaded look that is not the same throughout, it would appear more natural. You could create a PNG in Photoshop and stamp it across the surface. Kindof like a shadow but with a "grungy look." That wall looks like it would have some "grime" and "gook" on it. Same goes for the light shade...But the wall is most noticeable. Looks like a really nice composition. Lighting will look better also.....if you add shaded texturing onto those surfaces. Otherwise they will seem flat shaded a bit. Rodney pointed out the same thing earlier, and I figured the same, just hadn't gotten around to it, since I had been neglecting the character in favor of the scene. Well, I'm sorta happy with the results all the way around so far, though I'm sure I will continue to mess with this all the way to the bitter end (aka deadline August 9). I traded the brick darksim material for a decal of dirty bricks (Google is great btw). I had to do some work on it since it introduced a repeating pattern that looked suspiciously like space invaders. Below is the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 of course the minute I post the last pic, I noticed that the change I made to the image to remove the "space invaders" pattern in the brick didn't take affect. This is actually a material, with an image applied. I corrected the image, but A:M didn't reload the image to see the change. Short of deleting the image from the workspace and reloading, how do you get A:M to always grab the image from disk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuchur Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 while final rendering it always should do that... there is a image cache which can be emptied by rightclicking on the Images folder in the PWS. (if i remember correctly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 while final rendering it always should do that... there is a image cache which can be emptied by rightclicking on the Images folder in the PWS. (if i remember correctly). Now see, this is what happens when I post before coffee! I was looking at the wrong image. using the right version does the trick. Thanks for the tip on clearing the image cache; I knew that was there somewhere, just not where. One thing I'm digging about this contest, I've actually learned and put into practice more working on this scene in the past two weeks than the past several years. Maybe my knowledge of A:M is finally reaching critical mass and I'm finally comprehending what I've been hearing here on the forum, who knows. What is for sure is that what started out as a "what the heck, I'll put something in" into, being really stoked (again) about using A:M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsjustme Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 The only suggestion I have is that the soup can could use some internal geometry so that the decal of the label doesn't show through into the interior. Looks great so far, Paul! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted July 31, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 31, 2015 Love the style of that last image! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 The only suggestion I have is that the soup can could use some internal geometry so that the decal of the label doesn't show through into the interior. Looks great so far, Paul! Good catch! Added a lid for good measure as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted August 1, 2015 Author Share Posted August 1, 2015 Aaaand one more tweek to the scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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