markeh Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 You finish these things and then say to yourself, "this is wrong and why didn't I pay more attention to this over here...etc", but I've done put a fork in it. 1.6 mb Flash FLood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMZ_TimeLord Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 That looks really nice! I especially like the way the rocks splash back down. The water looks really like water before the flood too... and looks like raging water when it comes. My only critique is the last rock falls a bit slow... Otherwise EXCELLENT work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Excellent. I love the splashes of the rocks too. It seems like you could speed the animation up and it would look more correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCBradbury Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Very awesome render. My only problem is that your very nice looking rocks have no weight to them. I think they would just push the dam out of the way, not realy fly into the air. Cool water, and i love the effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Super cool, Love to see special 3d effects done in AM.... Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Wow! Great accomplishment. Don't stop now, just tweak the rock a bit (accelerate its fall) and then put a fork in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnl3d Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Very nice !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWBradbury Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 How did you achieve this effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markeh Posted January 28, 2006 Author Share Posted January 28, 2006 I so agree with the slow movement of the rocks. Either they should be faster or pretend they are huge and they shoot up really high. There are other issues but none so prevelant as the rocks. I had also put in some sprites on the fore part of the churn but they don't really show up. How did you achieve this effect? I had mentioned this in the wip form about the main flood water. I ended up rigging the water model and cp weighting it and then snaking and contorting it through the canyon. It's churn movement is the result of changing the translate values of a turbulence material (with displacement percentage applied) in the choreography over time. The dam is in two parts and I exploded each with Steffens newton plugin. You almost don't even see it exploding. As Dan had said, the rocks should more or less roll a bit but this is very much highly embellished for it purposes (I was once with my sister on a hike when it started to rain and she had stories to tell of a large wall of water coming down the canyon. I was there. It was no more than 2 inches. It was cute.). The rocks were forced into the air through newton physics as well. I think my scaling was off. I mean it was definitely off. I did each newton simulation separately so as not to hang the computer. In other words blow up half of dam - turn that model off, kick up rocks - turn that model off etc. Thankyou for all the kind remarks. I wasn't able to pull that fork out. Edit: Ah dang it's that one rock especially at the end that really puts everything out of place. I may just have to rerender those frames. (I keep rewatching it and now it's starting to haunt me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWBradbury Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 You could use the same sprite emmiter to emmit the spalshes as the water hits the valley wall. From the animations I wouldn't think that the rocks would not have been jetted up in the air; rather, they would most likely want to be projected forward towards the camera like the wood debress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimos Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I agree with Matt. The rocks would most likely not shoot up anywhere near that high. Water is a very POwERFUL force, true....however from what I undersstand about some physics and stuff (as an animator not a scientist) the rocks would most likely fly forward as if they were pushed agressively and then flow with the water for a VERY short while (at least visibly). Again I am not a scientist but I would most definitely not animate the boulders that "lightly". You may disagree but your disagreement doesn't make it right . Dimos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markeh Posted January 28, 2006 Author Share Posted January 28, 2006 You may disagree but your disagreement doesn't make it right There's absolutely no disagreement. This clip is just a small snippet in a much larger narrative that my father is doing. The order was to put something out that gave a point about what was generally going on but could have a certain amount of whimsey. Here is another clip that will be part of his narrative that is even more whimsical. molly.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimos Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 In that case....GO FOR IT! Just remember a KEY point.....BELIEVABILITY is everything.....no matter how "whimsical" the piece. Dimos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markeh Posted January 28, 2006 Author Share Posted January 28, 2006 Just remember a KEY point.....BELIEVABILITY is everything.....no matter how "whimsical" the piece. Point taken. I have a rock slide animation coming up and will try to improve on the dynamics and believability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWBradbury Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 If it's going to be a rock slide you could use newton physics to help you get a general idea of how the rocks would fall, or you could just use the physics movements in your animation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 LOL That whimsical piece reminded me of the car chases in Playstation's Driver game where some of the cars that get hit are thrown way over buildings. Cool game. Fun scene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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