TurboGorilla Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 This was a weekend project. I wanted to experiment with some composting and chroma screens (harder than I thought! You've gotta get the lighting just right!) and basically just do something fun that I could also use to learn more about the software. So...here it is! My five minute silent film: Death Over France http://www.irish-studios.com/DeathOverFrance.mov Be warned...this is a 39.5 meg download so if you don't have broadband, you probably don't want to try downloading this. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath_Naylor Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Just curious, how long have you been using the program? I liked the short a lot, the only thing that would make me love it and ask it to marry me was if Leo was 3D. Well, you ARE 3D, everyone is... But I mean, made and animated in Animation Master 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vf124 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Did you do the piano work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnysway Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Cool stuff done in there with A:M. Could you just tighten up the editing? It is way too drawn out and I couldn't even watch the whole thing. Just my thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGorilla Posted June 28, 2005 Author Share Posted June 28, 2005 Thanks for the comments! HEATH_NAYLOR: I purchased A:M last July and played with it a fair amount for a couple of months. Then I didn't touch it all again until about 2 months ago and so now I play with it about, oh...maybe 3 to 4 hours a week. My modeling skills are really awful still, which is why I did the live action of the Captain Leo character. If I was a good enough modeler, and someday I hope to be, I'll replace all those shots with some better shots with an animated model. Also though, I wanted to play around with using Chroma-keying to insert myself over the animation and see how that looked, so.... VF124: I did not do the piano playing. JOHNNYSWAY: I understand what you meant about it being a bit long, but I did that on purpose so that it would be a faithful rendition of an actual silent film. If you watch many silent films of that era, they spend a lot of time on the title cards and on the actors reactions to things. So I left some of the titles up a really long time, and had them jitter a lot here and there, just to lend a note of authenticity to it. I'm sorry you didn't watch the whole thing. It is a story with a beginning middle and end and you missed out on the whole "effect" so to speak, by not watching it through to the end. But that being said, I'm glad you watched as much as you did and gave me your feedback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 By Jiggers!!! That was great LOL Nice monochromatic effects. Good mix of live action and animation. If you only had the bi-plane's propeller turn, no one would know it was animated Why didn't you rotate the props? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted June 29, 2005 Hash Fellow Share Posted June 29, 2005 If you watch many silent films of that era, they spend a lot of time on the title cards and on the actors reactions to things. So I left some of the titles up a really long time, and had them jitter a lot here and there, just to lend a note of authenticity to it. Oh I gotta disagree with that. The good ones were expertly paced. I just watched "It" (1926) and even though it's almost all about reactions (and had a fair number of title cards) I never felt anything was lingered on too long. Sure there are bad silent films, but don't use those as models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGorilla Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share Posted June 29, 2005 OK! :-) I know when I'm licked! I'm going to go back and edit the film and make it tighter. I sincerely appreciate the feedback from all of you. It helps me to create a better fill-um. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekamps Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Since you are going back to editing... I'm not sure exactly how to do it but, I think the shots of you as Captain Leo would greatly be improved if they weren't so smooth/modern. It just seemed the films of that time were more jumpy and quick (Benny Hill like). Maybe dropping some frames would do the trick or maybe there is some other trick. Hope that makes sense. And a little flicker effect too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSanderson Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 LOL that was a HOOT!!! TurboGorilla you need to see "WINGS" the first film to win the Academy Award for a bit of inspiration. It is long, (& silent) but the story is really good ..... surprized it has not been redone in some fashion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jaqe Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 I would've liked a few changes here and there, but overall it was GREAT! I laughed my pants fo when he drove trough the zepelin. The only thing that really bugged me what the propellar, which didn't rotate, but like I said: overall: great and VERY good acting Good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 I really enjoyed this. Nice job with the whole thing. In particular I think you handled getting the look to match pretty well. I think as the Kamps mentioned it would look more authentic if the frame rate were sped up on the the live action stuff. It would be cool if you would tell us more in depth how you did this. Great job and very pleasing short. Can't wait to see it edited. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Forwood Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 That was great fun! You must stash away a DVD of this so that your grand children can marvel at what a hero you are and how well preserved you are too. I gather that you made this just for fun and for the experience so I'm not going to offer any criticisms other than I would have liked to see more action in the cockpit. I really enjoyed watching. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakchas Posted June 30, 2005 Share Posted June 30, 2005 agileness? Bwahahaha! I liked it! Okay, tighten it up a bit if you must...Otherwise, great fun! Oh, and I agree with Paul, more action in the cockpit! perhaps the shadow of the crosshairs visible? ... and maybe put Thom in the cocpit of the plane(in the o'head shot)... and spin the prop... All in all it was fun, and that counts... alot! Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboGorilla Posted July 1, 2005 Author Share Posted July 1, 2005 OK. Here are the details for anyone who might be interested. I apologize up front that this is going to be boring. First of all, I only wanted something I could do quickly and learn more about A:M and most of all, to have some fun with along the way. I honestly did not even have a story idea in mind when I first started this. I just wanted to play with the biplane and airship model that comes with A:M. So I layed out a couple of quick sequences of those two models together over a jpeg I had of some clouds. When I rendered them I thought, "That's pretty cool. I wonder if I can create a WWI movie without putting much work into it." I then took the two renders (about 13 seconds total) and imported them into my Sony Vegas Studio editing software. Sony has a really great, affordable!, professional quality video editing package ( http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/Products/...on=4.0&Build=42 ) which I'd purchased last fall for some online video tutorials I created for a tech website (those videos can be found here in case you are really bored out of your mind and want to see what they look like: http://www.irish-studios.com/Articles.htm#VideoTutorials ). Within Vegas Studio there are dozens of film effects you can overlay onto your video. One of them is called Circa 1908 which basically gives you several properties you can control including dust, jitter, scratches, grain, hair, tones, etc.. I added this effect to the video and then played around with the values of those various properties. I then also added a Sepia color to it (I debated between Sepia and Aged Newspaper but Sepia won out as it wasn't quite as yellowed looking). Vegas Studio allows you to burst video streams which makes it really easy to pick and choose which frames you want to use. In addition, there are several CHROMA-key effects you can add to your video using overlays. I decided to use myself as Captain Leo because I work for less than scale and because I didn't want to try to figure out how to model a set of goggles and hat and scarf for the Tarzan model (my second choice for Captain Leo). I went to Wal-Mart and bought a $2.00 pair of kids swim goggles, I used the wool face mask I wear when I plow snow on my tractor, I tossed on a leather jacket I have and then grabbed a ratty old dish towel from the sink for the scarf. And that was the costume. I then set up my Logitech web-cam on a plant stand in front of my bed, hung a blue bed sheet from the ceiling behind me with thumb tacks and set some lamps up around the bed for lighting. I then set my laptop up where I could see it while the web cam was running and I basically just started thinking about how I might want the film to go and I filmed a whole bunch of sequences with me reacting to imaginary events that might or might not ever make it into the final film. Once I had all of that, I then went back into A:M and started creating a whole bunch of sequences, most of them about 6 to 10 seconds long. The flak was made from the EXPLOSION material which comes with A:M and which I added to a 128 patch sphere from the PRIMITIVES folder. I played with the properties of the model in the CHOR to remove some of the fire and make it look more smoky. The reason I didn't rotate the prop was because I thought that was going to be a lot of work trying to figure out how to add bones to that model so that I could rotate it. As it turns out, I just added a couple of bones to that prop on the biplane model a few minutes ago and it was much easier than I thought. A rotating prop will make it into the new version of this film. Most of the time spent making this film was spent rendering the A:M sequences. But I purposely kept each sequence short so that I wouldn't have to wait a long time to get some output which I could import into Vegas Studio. So...that's about it. I edited all the live action sequences as separate Vegas projects to break each into individual scenes and I then took that output and created a chroma-key sequence of me sitting in the Biplane model. That came out much worse than I had hoped for, mostly because I did not have proper lighting on my blue-bed sheet background and I did not get an even blue color which the chroma-key could work with. Still, I played around with the chroma-key properties for a long time on each live action sequence to try to blend it as best I could with what I had to work from. For the final film, I added a 16mm film projector wav file as a background noise and I found some nifty jazz music on the web to use as the sound track. I've actually written to the jazz musician via email asking for permission to use their music for my project, but if I don't get an affirmative from them on that, I'll be removing that music from the "final" version of this film. I may end up banging out my own theme music on the keyboard. My standards are low so I expect I'll be very pleased with whatever I come up with on that front. And that's it. I've been reading all of these great suggestions for the new version of this film and I've begun work on incorporating them into it. I also took the suggestion about watching some other silent films for inspiration and I've got a DVD on its way with a large collection of silent films on it from the first part of the 20th century. I expect that'll give me a lot of great ideas. Thanks again for all the nice feedback! 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Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 1, 2005 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 1, 2005 A fine first project! I'll be looking forward to the next one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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