Gene Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 Hey Gang, After seeing all the Awesome stuff that Yves started on his Radiosity threads, I decided to mess around with a scene that I am working on. This is just the beginning, playing with the settings. I am certain that if I spend more time, I can get a better effect. I have 8 lights setup as Yves suggested (Cone Angle 180 degrees, 100% Width Softness) One exception is that the falloff doesn't touch any of the objects in the scene, except for the walls. I tried to move the lights closer together, but then the light was too concentrated in one spot. Should I be using more lights with smaller falloff?? I don't like the fact that the 55 gallon drums are dark and so is the side of the forklift facing the viewer. Anyway, I hope to post more as it gets better...Please, Please, Please offer any suggestions you can think of to make this look better. Thanks, Eugene Quote
starving4rtist Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 Looks great to me. The radiosity works well for this scene. As far as improvement, I would say just work on your texturing. A warehouse like this (I assume that's what it is) is usually much more dirty and worn. Right now everything looks a little too clean for me. Quote
Grubber Posted December 7, 2004 Posted December 7, 2004 A warehouse like this (I assume that's what it is) is usually much more dirty and worn. true! especially the floor! and put the cart lifter down! no one leave it lifted up! Quote
Gene Posted December 7, 2004 Author Posted December 7, 2004 Hey Guys...yes I know about the "dirty" look. I usually get ahead of myself when I start putting stuff like this together and finish up the details a bit later. Here is a very short animation of the forklift hitting the 55 gallon drums...Please note that I did something wrong on the very first frame and the forklift is into the floor! Just ignore that. I had to stop the render because there was another 17 hrs to go and I had the scene rendering for about 20 hours already...gotta love that radiosity! Anyway...I've attached the animation, so please let me know what you think so far. Cheers, Eugene ShopFloor_006.mov Quote
ZachBG Posted December 8, 2004 Posted December 8, 2004 Are you looking for crits on the render, or the animation? I'm not qualified to do crits on the "look" of the shop, but those drums look awfully light if they fell so quickly. Quote
Gene Posted December 8, 2004 Author Posted December 8, 2004 Feel free to critique anything you wish...anything you think that will help the scene or my animating skills! Thanks, Eugene Quote
Hutch Posted December 8, 2004 Posted December 8, 2004 Where is the driver? Or is this an example of why remote controlled fork lifts are a bad idea? Quote
Admin Rodney Posted December 8, 2004 Admin Posted December 8, 2004 It certainly conveys the story. Hope no one got injured but I suspect that's the whole point of your work. Other than what has been mentioned about textures, etc. I looks pretty perfect to me. Quote
Gene Posted December 8, 2004 Author Posted December 8, 2004 Maybe one of you could give me some insight...I would like to know if it's ok to add a keylight in this scene when I am using radiosity. I would like to lighten up the areas that are dark. If I add the keylight, does it take away from the radiosity? For example, you can't make out the label on the drum...it's one of the symbols for a hazardous material. Oh yeah...it's in autopilot for now, but maybe I could Thom or keekat as the driver! Thanks E Quote
wwoelbel Posted December 8, 2004 Posted December 8, 2004 Hey Gene - Nice render! You can indeed add a key light but remember that it will contribute to the entire scene. I was going to suggest bouncing some light off of the wall that is behind the camera to lighten up the front side details. (of course, I am guessing and by no means the expert) Perhaps Yves will chime in. Bill Quote
dworkin Posted December 8, 2004 Posted December 8, 2004 only problems i see are at the end. 1. the pallets the barrels are sitting on moves. not to sure that it would. it could possiblly sift some what. 2. because you hit the corner barrel, not only is the one to its side effected, but the back barrels should also be somewhat effected. another minor thing would be if the barrels were full it would cause the fork lift to bounch or sake a little bit. Quote
Gene Posted December 9, 2004 Author Posted December 9, 2004 I was thinking that if the drums were heavy enough that the palette on the floor would probably move, but you are right...I should animate the palette on the forklift as well!! Thanks, Eugene (Nobody was hurt in this animation) Quote
ypoissant Posted December 9, 2004 Posted December 9, 2004 There are so many things happening on the forum that I completely missed that topic. Here is a few things I would do for your scene: - One way to increase the illumination facing the viewer would be to set your wall, behind the viewer, to white. This will contribute much more light on the front facing surfaces. Since this wall is not visible anyway, there should be no problem in cheating this way. - Increasing the max bounces should help in distributing illumination more evenly and thus more on the facing surfaces too. - I would certainly modify the colors on the drums a little. Increase the constrats. Lighten and desaturate the red and darken the logo. The red, in particular pops out as unnatural because too saturated IMO. Quote
Gene Posted December 10, 2004 Author Posted December 10, 2004 Thanks Yves, I played with the scene a bit, but found that adding the keylight was quick and made the biggest difference. The drums look much better now that I have changed the color. By the way...your tutorials are Brilliant! Cheers, Eugene ShopFloor_007.mov Quote
pleavens Posted December 10, 2004 Posted December 10, 2004 I'm only seeing the first frame of your last posted movie. Phil Quote
johnl3d Posted December 10, 2004 Posted December 10, 2004 I think Gene only rendered one frame..he does that Quote
Gene Posted December 10, 2004 Author Posted December 10, 2004 Yeah....the first frame took about an hour and 10 minutes and the animation is 3 seconds...I'm not that young anymore. E Quote
KenH Posted December 10, 2004 Posted December 10, 2004 Hey the wheels on the truck don't turn! Still looks great though. Quote
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