Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 23, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 23, 2010 And look at that page in TASK Nancy pointed you to on bouncing ball. Not one straight line in the way he moves that ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 I watched your video and I do not have the cp controls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyGormezano Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 turn on "show bias handles" - the yellow icon thingy next to the world globe thingy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 turn on "show bias handles" - the yellow icon thingy next to the world globe thingy I love you Nancy bounce11.mov better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 That's coming along Gene! My main comment is that the initial drop is too slow. It could use some other tweaking but this is a vast improvement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 That's coming along Gene! My main comment is that the initial drop is too slow. It could use some other tweaking but this is a vast improvement! I speeded up the drop bounce12.mov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gax_MgWPg-4 the YouTube one is two clips together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 bounce13.mov Thanks everybody! not perfect but promising! what should I try next? bounce it downstairs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Looking good to me ,the last few bounces are real nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 23, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 23, 2010 1- many times the ball is squashing before it contacts the ground, or leaving the ground in squashed shape. Neither of those can be. 2- Iron rule of classic animation...maintain volume. When a ball is squashed it gets wider to keep its volume. 3- a ball can't squash any faster than it was moving to begin with. What if the ball were really made of tiny pellets in a sack? Would the pellets at the top suddenly start zooming down faster because the pellets at the bottom had just touched the ground? 4- gravity means accelerating on the way down and decelerating on the way up. Without having tracked them frame by frame, it looks like the ball is moving at a constant velocity in many spots. It's complicated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 bouncestairs.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 24, 2010 Author Share Posted July 24, 2010 1- many times the ball is squashing before it contacts the ground, or leaving the ground in squashed shape. Neither of those can be. 2- Iron rule of classic animation...maintain volume. When a ball is squashed it gets wider to keep its volume. 3- a ball can't squash any faster than it was moving to begin with. What if the ball were really made of tiny pellets in a sack? Would the pellets at the top suddenly start zooming down faster because the pellets at the bottom had just touched the ground? 4- gravity means accelerating on the way down and decelerating on the way up. Without having tracked them frame by frame, it looks like the ball is moving at a constant velocity in many spots. It's complicated! When squashing or stretching how do you do it? I know I am doing it wrong, but I was close. I really appreciate your help. (edit) I am refering to manipulating the model , I have a pose slider but it limits me on rotating the ball. Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 24, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 24, 2010 When squashing or stretching how do you do it? If you HAVE to squetch a ball with surface details, typically you use two bones. one for squetch and then one that is a child of that for rotation. The child inherits whatever scaling the parent has, but the parent doesn't get the rotation that the child gets. But I'd eliminate that problem entirely by using a plain ball without texture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 I cant seem to get my rulers to show in choreography. the show rulers button does nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 25, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 25, 2010 I think they only work in non-perspective views? Try a side view and toggle the \ key to switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 I think they only work in non-perspective views? Try a side view and toggle the \ key to switch. You Sir, Are correct. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 25, 2010 Author Share Posted July 25, 2010 Here's a character I made for practicing leg animating/walk cycles. All I did was delete Thom's head and arms and put some of my eyes on him. walk10.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 26, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 26, 2010 I also have two vids on blocking out walks that you may find useful. same place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 like the exercise character? Btw I tried to buy you a book off your list (nothing expensive but something) they dont take paypal though. Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 walk12.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 26, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 26, 2010 In the vid i think I talk about how the hips don't start back up on the same exact frame that the heel hits the ground. They continue down for a few frames then start their way back up. Unless your legs are absolutely rigid poles (which they are not) the body will continue down until the front leg can absorb all the weight and begin to force it up again. Richard williams talks about this too in his section on walks. But I think an all-legs character is good for practicing walks. That's all we had at Animation mentor when they started us on walks. Btw I tried to buy you a book off your list (nothing expensive but something) they dont take paypal though. thanks, none-the-less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share Posted July 26, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlMFcNHucHQ walk15.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 Can this topic be moved to my section? cause I plan to continue these exercises till I can do it. walk18.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 BTW I read every single crit or advice and I listen. I might not comment back but I find myself rereading everything several times. And hopefully it shows in my efforts. So thanks! Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 27, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 27, 2010 Sometime around October I might be able to get this not-yet-existent class I talk about rolling. It would move in very small increments like this. Basic bouncing ball Moving bouncing ball Squetchy bouncing ball Standing up Broad jump Sidestep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 Sometime around October I might be able to get this not-yet-existent class I talk about rolling. It would move in very small increments like this. Basic bouncing ball Moving bouncing ball Squetchy bouncing ball Standing up Broad jump Sidestep SOUNDS GREAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 climber4.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 28, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 28, 2010 The big thing about stair climbing is you have to get your center of gravity completely over the leading foot before you can pull up the trailing foot. This is especially true if you are climbing slowly. If his center of gravity isn't over the foot on the next step, how can that leg possibly push him up? On the second step he actually has both feet off the steps simultaneously. Can't happen. Impossible. Go to some stairs and try going up slowly. Try lifting up your lower foot without putting your weight on the upper foot. Actually go and try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 The big thing about stair climbing is you have to get your center of gravity completely over the leading foot before you can pull up the trailing foot. This is especially true if you are climbing slowly. If his center of gravity isn't over the foot on the next step, how can that leg possibly push him up? On the second step he actually has both feet off the steps simultaneously. Can't happen. Impossible. Go to some stairs and try going up slowly. Try lifting up your lower foot without putting your weight on the upper foot. Actually go and try that. why you trying to hurt me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 28, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 28, 2010 why you trying to hurt me? Gonna knock some sense into you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 climber5.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 28, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 28, 2010 Closer... but look at the frame where his rear foot loses contact with the ground.... has he really gotten his weight over that front foot already? If not it's going to be bonk, bonk, bonk... down to the bottom of the stairs. Close wont' sell it to the viewer usually. You have to make his weight shift obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJL Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Gonna knock some sense into you. Good Luck, Robert. I been trying to do that for over a year and haven't made any headway. Major improvements, Gene, but Robert is a "take no prisoners" kind of a tutor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted July 28, 2010 Admin Share Posted July 28, 2010 You made that last one a bit hard for yourself just by the fact the steps were so tall. If you can find a step (or other solid object) that is the height of your knees and try to step up on it you'll see that it's considerably awkward. Given that aspect I find you've done a pretty good job on this last one. Try it again with lower (individual) steps to walk up. That'll make it much easier for you (and your character) to walk up. The typical step is about top of boot height (under 8 inches). I'd say at at least half the height you've got there. For reference here are some images of people walking up stairs. (Be careful. Some of the illustrations, CG images make the same mistake.) These you'll have to sort through a bit but... walking up stairs (animated). For those that want to get precise or technical: Stair Height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyGormezano Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 yup - Rodney pointed to some great images for walking up stairs - the one that instantly jumped out to me was the Muybridge reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_96CjmygmVM...feature=channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyGormezano Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 Am I showing progress anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted July 29, 2010 Hash Fellow Share Posted July 29, 2010 Am I showing progress anywhere? yes, but I'll say what i said before... we gotta start you out from the start. Too many shortcuts happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 Am I showing progress anywhere? yes, but I'll say what i said before... we gotta start you out from the start. Too many shortcuts happening. I do attack it head on. I do not dissagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted July 29, 2010 Admin Share Posted July 29, 2010 That last one made me smile Gene! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 liquid3.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fae_alba Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 liquid3.mov I'm liking it. The only remark that springs to mind is that the liquid feels like it flows like mercury. Maybe its just me, but I feel like I should be calling the haz-mat team and not the waiter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 That last one made me smile Gene! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Admin Rodney Posted August 2, 2010 Admin Share Posted August 2, 2010 Your name is officially equivalent to the term 'prolific'. There may be some rough spots here and there in that last animation compilation but you sure know how to entertain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Your name is officially equivalent to the term 'prolific'. There may be some rough spots here and there in that last animation compilation but you sure know how to entertain. High praise indeed! Thank you! Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSpleen Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 100 views! not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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