tbenefi33 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hello well I'm back after another PC crashed I need to upgrade anyway and all so I was messing around with the ghost hunting stuff I've gotten some weird evp's (electronic voice phanamena). Any way I working on a project was wornding can this be done I wanna scare the crap out of some of my family members. The I deal is to have a figure like shadow climbing up the wall going to the cealing and going down into that person who's sitting in the chair and play it back for them I'll tell them I got on the pc and show um. I probley have to use syntheyes camera tracking for the project also are is there any other better software out there that works good with animation master. Guess yall can tell where I got this Ideal from...LOL Any ideal on the shadow will be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Any ideal on the shadow will be greatly appreciated. You might be able to use a spot light with a negative value in the brightness to project a dark area. This use to work. If it still works then you could craft a 'figure like' model (just a flat figure) and rig it and make it white. Then animate it moving the way you want it to move then render against a black background (basically a negative image of what you want). Then you apply this animation as a rotoscope to the 'negative' spotlight -- the white will let thought the 'light' (which is darkness right) and the black should block the darkness. Then you just project and move your animated figure in your set as needed and timed to go with the animation of the figure you did (so the figure waves its arms or whatever as you move it across the wall by moving the spotlight). As for mixing AM and real life sets... this is too large an area for me to get into here. Anzovin Studio has a great 2 CD video tutorial on doing this. Don't remember what it costs but I do know its well worth the money. Hope this helps! Rusty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnl3d Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Not sure if this will help just a quick idea its quick so scroll it manually to get the idea....action applied to model ...in front of a light shadow.mov shadow.prj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsjustme Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 These tutorials might help: Combining CG Characters with Live Action Tips for Compositing Animation:Master 2000 3D Animation with Video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbenefi33 Posted October 26, 2008 Author Share Posted October 26, 2008 Hi I was messing around with what yall said I took a flat model kind of figure shape made about 85% transparence and I add smoke particle to it, the smoke will follow the model up the wall like a mist kind of. But I think I got the transparence way down here a short clip. Shadow_on_the_wall.mov I'll check thoese links out thank you. Yall think particle would be better I 'm just thinking out loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbenefi33 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Here something I was messing around with, I'm thinking about modeling a evil looking ghostly figure not sure though. Don't you just hate it when you get stuck on something and don't know which way to go bummer. Shadow_on_the_wall.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbenefi33 Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Got ghost orb going on here how come it white on one side and the other side is kind of blue you will see it go by up above the seat and towards the front door it dissapear on the front door. This is not CGI but it works...lol Shadow_on_the_wall_10.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacman Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Thinking out loud. If you built a very simple replica of the room and any items that you want to have the shadow interact with. Render with shadow and alpha buffers on. This should render the shadow with an alpha channel. It will look like a black screen. But trust me it will be a shadow with an alpha channel. Combine in After effects. This is covered in the tutorials noted above. I only recommend AE cause it is what I know. Any similar program will work. was rendered out with the war of the worlds model on an alpha channel and the shadow rendered out seperately. Granted, I only needed the shadow on the ground plane but the process still worked. I combined the background image, the model, and the shadow After Effects. Also, there is a version of Icarus that works with A:M. It is free but you will have to do some internet digging to find it. This is used for motion tracking. Having used it, you will want to mount your camera on a tripod and use smooth pans if possible. This will give the cleanest track. A lot of jerky motion will make it very difficult to get a clean track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelley Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 You might be able to use a spot light with a negative value in the brightness to project a dark area. Spotlights can have a negative value? This is the first time I've head that mentioned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuchur Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Any light can have a negative value... it is a great feature to unlight certain areas (for example if you dont want the audience to see something (yet)...) It is a lesser known feature, but it is there... *Fuchur* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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