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Ok - installed Windows 7 via bootcamp on Macpro 3,1 2008 installed AM 18p - working flawlessly with Nvidia FX4800

Please disregard its all working now . . . finally I can get on with some work with windows 7 !!

Hi guys, I finally got windows running on 2008 mac and installed AM 18 64 on it, I was going through the process with Jason to transfer my Mac since over to windows and have left it a bit late, so I just bought a new subscription now, I removed the old license file and put in the new activation code and it tells me the code is invalid - am I doing anything wrong - or has the procedure changed ? I have uninstalled and reinstalled from a fresh download and still the same - I did notice that when the panel containing the company names etc. comes up it has the test name I used for Company Name / User Name / Email ect. Can anyone tell me how to completely reset AM - eg. get rid of all files for a total clean installation. I have sent Jason an email again but if anyone can tell me of anything Im doing wrong it would be great. Thanks

cheers Rodney ! I will do that, I really want to see AM running oaths mac pro with windows 7 and see if the issues with the Nvidia card remains

For anyone that has been having trying to install Win 7 on Mac pro via bootcamp if you are having issues, send me a message, I went through it all over the last couple of weeks and have discovered something - boot camp does tidily squat on the older mac pros 2008 - 2009 etc. If you're trying to figure out how to install windows and it aint working message me and I'll tell you how to do it, now after two weeks of stuffing around I have a pretty awesome dual Xeon professor Windows machine with a kick arse video card which is also a mac ;-) . . . now if orders@hash could kindly send me my license file so I can run AM in windows - that would be awesome - chop chop - time is money orders@hash

Yeah, it would be great if we could buy a USB dongle like print software, then you could have it installed on multiple machines and just plug in the usb dongle to operate it, Dylan from momentum has 2013 production which has a network license for multiple computers for a studio environment, I think has should offer this for AM on single license with the ability to upgrade to multiple license on multiple computers like this network dongle, I mean they do this with net render license, so why can't the software also be like this. I installed my mac pro 3,1 with windows 7 - finally ! and am now eating for my license to be transferred over so I can use it on windows booted on my mac pro through boot camp - THAT was a mission !

ha ha no, I actually need the DVD drive to install windows on my Mac, my old one has died and IDE/ATA Drives are impossible to find in the wild, I actually have access to V13 with the network dongle - so no CD required ;-)

don't get me wrong, I was so hanging for the STL export and the other things, its just frustrating when you're trying to do a job and it behaves the way it does, I've ordered a new DVD drive and should have it this week, then I can get it up and running in windows here it likes to be, I can now try both nvidia and ati cards in the windows environment and will see how it goes, or new dell pc and going to be the next AM machine

yes, un installed all the drivers, now when I go into preferences I get corrupted code in the settings some times, yes I will run AM in windows / bootcamp and I am seriously considering building another PC up so it can be just the AM machine and run 2013 version for main work and play with the new versions as they happen

yes guys tried all of that, reinstalled AM several times, the video just shows me trying to open a project and it crashing no matter what I try, I sent the project file to Dylan, he opened in am 2013 no issues on PC then sent me back a model and this was still happening, I'm going boot camp windows or getting a PC specifically for AM like I used to have, its a real shame that the mac version is so unstable, for production work I have been told 2013 is the most stable version on pc so I might revert back to that or have it run alongside the new version and see hoe it goes

. . . news flash . . . uninstalled nvidia drivers and no difference . . . looks like the Nvidia Quadro Video card was actually working with AM on this mac better than the AMD card except for the texture / rotoscope / imported images . . . now I am thinking that the Nvidia Quadro card under bootcamp Windows 7 would actually work . . . hmmm . . . more to come when I get that drive to do a install

this is what it looks like . . . https://youtu.be/pwoYKp1a8os

https://youtu.be/pwoYKp1a8os this is what its doing . . . needs to be fixed ! With all due respect Fuchur, this is quite ridiculous for the app to behave this way on mac - granted there is only one developer / engineer developing the mac version, it is very frustrating not being able to do work because of these issues, we cannot use this for production work on Mac OS, the issues is even more unstable with AMD/ATI card than it was on the Nvidia card, I'll try both cards on windows 7 through boot camp and see what results I get - the mac version is a afterthought at best, looks like I will have to build a PC up again just for AM, such a great app it is but I cant use it to any potential on the Os I love and do 90% of my work on

Yes understand, but I have got Dylan to export the model and also did some testing in the process on Mac side of things. . . nothing is working properly at the moment . . . I am thinking I will revert back to AM 2013 as dylan thinks thats the most stable version for production - on windows through boot camp on mac

enjoy . . .yes and no . . . mainly no . . . card installed, booted up AM to see the car model I was working on, opens, loads projects . . . crash . . . try it again . . . crash . . . open new project ok, draw stuff, ok . . . turn on shaded wireframe . . . crash . . . crash . . . crash . . . crash . . . then think perhaps its because I had quad view setup, sent project to Dylan so he can close all open windows in project file so it only has to open one window . . . cash . . . exported car model from project ( by Dylan ) open that . . . good, touch a control point or turn on shaded / wireframe . . . crash . . . say . . . F#$%^&!!!! this S#$%$$^&, I'm gunna boot camp it, . . . but wait . . . cant boot off USB on Mac Pro 3,1 . . . okey dokey . . . lets just install win7 from cd/dvd . . . dvd drive is dead . . . take it out . . . ohhnooo its beta ! . . . ummm . . . noooo . . . its ATA / IDE . . . call every friggin compooter store in australia . . . they tell me . . . dude no ones been selling those drives like for the last ten years where have you been ? . . . so now I just bought a second hand 'tested' ATA/IDE drive . . . which will come next week, then I can finally load win 7 through bootcamp and transfer license and have a play . . . ouuu . . . I just realised I didn't uninstall the nvidia drivers so perhaps that could have caused issues . . . either way, come hell or high water I will be getting it to run on this damn mac pro . . . stay tuned for more laughs . . . or hopefully this version 19 is native mac code, that supports open cl and is rock solid , that will make my day

Okey Doeky, went and got myself a Radeon HD 6850 3D card for mac and swapped it with the quadro that was in there, now AM is behaving good, except the last project I was working on is crashing on opening, there is a model in there which I did not save out, I think because I had the project setup with 4 windows for the views, AM boots, loads the files, then draws the windows and crashes . . . is there a way to reset this on the project file to one window or extract the model file ? . . . next step . . . install windows 7

OK ! SO I went and got myself a Radeon 6850 for a bargain of $150 aud . . . specs on paper seem to favour the Mac 2008 over the Quadro FX 4800 I have, even at 1 gig on Radeon vs 1.5 gig on the quadro the Radeon looks to operate faster as the clock speed of the GPU is way faster on the radeon than on the Quadro . . . all spec stuff aside, lets see how AM performs now with the ATI card and the 3,1 mac lives to fight on ! Largento I agree on the expandability of the 2013 video cards, I have been talking to few people and watching videos and see that people are running external GPU's - hacked of course, hopefully Apple will natively support this on the next version, if some one were enterprising enough to come up with a connector / converter cable to allow installing new GPU's it would eb awesome, but its that darn custom form factor in the cylinder macs that makes it difficult, which would mean that you would have to physically modify the case to allow an external connector just for external GPU's that don't connect through thunderbolt - but natively and directly to the motherboard through the converter cable in an external case, I think the external hard drives are ok, but we would have higher capacity flash drives at affordable prices in the future . . . fingers crossed !

yes I flashed a a GE Force card a long time ago for my G4 Mac AM ran great on it back then on the old PPC, yes I did look into ATI cards, but I always seem to get the max power card available for the machine which was / is the FX4800, I have been looking at specs on the 7950 and Final cut does get an edge from it, but really AM should be working for the Nvidia Cards, its a PIA like this, I'll see what happens and yes you are right about step down - which is why I'm leaning towards a 2013 Mac pro with the ATI/AMD cards instead of building up a legacy Mac Pro tower all over again, I really invested a fair amount of money in ram on this machine, the only thing that I'm not too fond off on the 2013 mac is being stuck with the graphics card and hard drive upgradeability, sure there are thunderbolt drives available but then buying an external case + drives is more $$$ lets see what happens for now I can work with what I have, the rotoscopes are hit and miss, but toggling the antiscopic settings and open gl versions seems to get them back so I'll finish this project before shelling out for any new hardware and if I get a new machine the 2008 will make a nice windows machine, I sure miss my old dell 540 visual work station which I built up for AM, that thing was a beast with the wildcat 3D card and AM worked on it flawlessly, but its a pain as all my graphics software is licensed for mac and I sold it for a good price to be used as a server

Hi Largento, which video card did you upgrade to in the 2008 Mac ? Just curious, I bought the Nvidia Quadro 4800 FX last year for it, and this appears to be the issue with it and AM, read the other forums and people using windows also have the same issues, I was going to install windows with bootcamp but now realise that it wasn't going to solve the problem, interested in which video card you have running in the 2008 ?

I know man, trying to juice the most I can out of my exisiting mac pro, its either change up the card to the 7950 ( its still pretty expensive @ over $500 usd ) or buy a 2012 mac pro which ca support the newer cards or just bite the bullet and upgrade to the 2013 mac pro with dual D700 6gb cards, either way its overkill for AM if its doesnt support Open CL rendering etc. but on the there front it will chew through video editing and " normal " tasks, doing the math and the effort required to buy an older machine, then spend money on SSD expansion cards + ram + more SSD drives + new video card - I think the 2013 Mac Pro is looking ideal, but really need to justify that purchase I think by some paying jobs, don't really game on PC's / Macs, we used to back at Momentum Animations with lan mid town madness / quake etc. its all xbox one for gaming at the moment

I'm thinking about changing my current quadro card in my 3.1 Mac Pro with a Radeon 7950, have been reading up on specs etc. and its pretty good for Mac and Windows, has dual bios so can be used on either, so would make either environment sweet through bootcamp windows or on Mac, I read the other posts with same issues from windows users with Nvidia cards

Bingo - only Mac book pro's have dual video card setups, discrete + integrated / nvidia + intel etc. not an ideal solution for Mac Pro machines with pro Nvidia cards eg. Quadro's, my CUDA and Open CL is not being used !!!! I got this just for AM !!

Sweet thanks Robcat - BTW - awesome video on making and rigging a car suspension spring, just did it a day ago and it works a treat !

Hi all, do I need to get another serial number for AM Net Subscription if I want to install it on Mac through bootcamp - Win7 ? Have had it up to here " " with it crashing on Mac and not rendering rotoscopes and throwing my pallets everywhere cant use it for production - so windows it is, have sent a email to orders@hash.com but didn't know if the original serial would work ??

Hi bobcat where do you make a report ? s