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. . . news flash . . . uninstalled nvidia drivers and no difference . . . looks like the Nvidia Quadro Video card was actually working with AM on this mac better than the AMD card except for the texture / rotoscope / imported images . . . now I am thinking that the Nvidia Quadro card under bootcamp Windows 7 would actually work . . . hmmm . . . more to come when I get that drive to do a install

this is what it looks like . . . https://youtu.be/pwoYKp1a8os

https://youtu.be/pwoYKp1a8os this is what its doing . . . needs to be fixed ! With all due respect Fuchur, this is quite ridiculous for the app to behave this way on mac - granted there is only one developer / engineer developing the mac version, it is very frustrating not being able to do work because of these issues, we cannot use this for production work on Mac OS, the issues is even more unstable with AMD/ATI card than it was on the Nvidia card, I'll try both cards on windows 7 through boot camp and see what results I get - the mac version is a afterthought at best, looks like I will have to build a PC up again just for AM, such a great app it is but I cant use it to any potential on the Os I love and do 90% of my work on

Yes understand, but I have got Dylan to export the model and also did some testing in the process on Mac side of things. . . nothing is working properly at the moment . . . I am thinking I will revert back to AM 2013 as dylan thinks thats the most stable version for production - on windows through boot camp on mac

enjoy . . .yes and no . . . mainly no . . . card installed, booted up AM to see the car model I was working on, opens, loads projects . . . crash . . . try it again . . . crash . . . open new project ok, draw stuff, ok . . . turn on shaded wireframe . . . crash . . . crash . . . crash . . . crash . . . then think perhaps its because I had quad view setup, sent project to Dylan so he can close all open windows in project file so it only has to open one window . . . cash . . . exported car model from project ( by Dylan ) open that . . . good, touch a control point or turn on shaded / wireframe . . . crash . . . say . . . F#$%^&!!!! this S#$%$$^&, I'm gunna boot camp it, . . . but wait . . . cant boot off USB on Mac Pro 3,1 . . . okey dokey . . . lets just install win7 from cd/dvd . . . dvd drive is dead . . . take it out . . . ohhnooo its beta ! . . . ummm . . . noooo . . . its ATA / IDE . . . call every friggin compooter store in australia . . . they tell me . . . dude no ones been selling those drives like for the last ten years where have you been ? . . . so now I just bought a second hand 'tested' ATA/IDE drive . . . which will come next week, then I can finally load win 7 through bootcamp and transfer license and have a play . . . ouuu . . . I just realised I didn't uninstall the nvidia drivers so perhaps that could have caused issues . . . either way, come hell or high water I will be getting it to run on this damn mac pro . . . stay tuned for more laughs . . . or hopefully this version 19 is native mac code, that supports open cl and is rock solid , that will make my day

Okey Doeky, went and got myself a Radeon HD 6850 3D card for mac and swapped it with the quadro that was in there, now AM is behaving good, except the last project I was working on is crashing on opening, there is a model in there which I did not save out, I think because I had the project setup with 4 windows for the views, AM boots, loads the files, then draws the windows and crashes . . . is there a way to reset this on the project file to one window or extract the model file ? . . . next step . . . install windows 7

OK ! SO I went and got myself a Radeon 6850 for a bargain of $150 aud . . . specs on paper seem to favour the Mac 2008 over the Quadro FX 4800 I have, even at 1 gig on Radeon vs 1.5 gig on the quadro the Radeon looks to operate faster as the clock speed of the GPU is way faster on the radeon than on the Quadro . . . all spec stuff aside, lets see how AM performs now with the ATI card and the 3,1 mac lives to fight on ! Largento I agree on the expandability of the 2013 video cards, I have been talking to few people and watching videos and see that people are running external GPU's - hacked of course, hopefully Apple will natively support this on the next version, if some one were enterprising enough to come up with a connector / converter cable to allow installing new GPU's it would eb awesome, but its that darn custom form factor in the cylinder macs that makes it difficult, which would mean that you would have to physically modify the case to allow an external connector just for external GPU's that don't connect through thunderbolt - but natively and directly to the motherboard through the converter cable in an external case, I think the external hard drives are ok, but we would have higher capacity flash drives at affordable prices in the future . . . fingers crossed !

yes I flashed a a GE Force card a long time ago for my G4 Mac AM ran great on it back then on the old PPC, yes I did look into ATI cards, but I always seem to get the max power card available for the machine which was / is the FX4800, I have been looking at specs on the 7950 and Final cut does get an edge from it, but really AM should be working for the Nvidia Cards, its a PIA like this, I'll see what happens and yes you are right about step down - which is why I'm leaning towards a 2013 Mac pro with the ATI/AMD cards instead of building up a legacy Mac Pro tower all over again, I really invested a fair amount of money in ram on this machine, the only thing that I'm not too fond off on the 2013 mac is being stuck with the graphics card and hard drive upgradeability, sure there are thunderbolt drives available but then buying an external case + drives is more $$$ lets see what happens for now I can work with what I have, the rotoscopes are hit and miss, but toggling the antiscopic settings and open gl versions seems to get them back so I'll finish this project before shelling out for any new hardware and if I get a new machine the 2008 will make a nice windows machine, I sure miss my old dell 540 visual work station which I built up for AM, that thing was a beast with the wildcat 3D card and AM worked on it flawlessly, but its a pain as all my graphics software is licensed for mac and I sold it for a good price to be used as a server

Hi Largento, which video card did you upgrade to in the 2008 Mac ? Just curious, I bought the Nvidia Quadro 4800 FX last year for it, and this appears to be the issue with it and AM, read the other forums and people using windows also have the same issues, I was going to install windows with bootcamp but now realise that it wasn't going to solve the problem, interested in which video card you have running in the 2008 ?

I know man, trying to juice the most I can out of my exisiting mac pro, its either change up the card to the 7950 ( its still pretty expensive @ over $500 usd ) or buy a 2012 mac pro which ca support the newer cards or just bite the bullet and upgrade to the 2013 mac pro with dual D700 6gb cards, either way its overkill for AM if its doesnt support Open CL rendering etc. but on the there front it will chew through video editing and " normal " tasks, doing the math and the effort required to buy an older machine, then spend money on SSD expansion cards + ram + more SSD drives + new video card - I think the 2013 Mac Pro is looking ideal, but really need to justify that purchase I think by some paying jobs, don't really game on PC's / Macs, we used to back at Momentum Animations with lan mid town madness / quake etc. its all xbox one for gaming at the moment

I'm thinking about changing my current quadro card in my 3.1 Mac Pro with a Radeon 7950, have been reading up on specs etc. and its pretty good for Mac and Windows, has dual bios so can be used on either, so would make either environment sweet through bootcamp windows or on Mac, I read the other posts with same issues from windows users with Nvidia cards

Bingo - only Mac book pro's have dual video card setups, discrete + integrated / nvidia + intel etc. not an ideal solution for Mac Pro machines with pro Nvidia cards eg. Quadro's, my CUDA and Open CL is not being used !!!! I got this just for AM !!

Sweet thanks Robcat - BTW - awesome video on making and rigging a car suspension spring, just did it a day ago and it works a treat !

Hi all, do I need to get another serial number for AM Net Subscription if I want to install it on Mac through bootcamp - Win7 ? Have had it up to here " " with it crashing on Mac and not rendering rotoscopes and throwing my pallets everywhere cant use it for production - so windows it is, have sent a email to orders@hash.com but didn't know if the original serial would work ??

Hi bobcat where do you make a report ? s

V19 fingers crossed, although I did end up finishing a super detailed model of a push bike today with a million crashes on mac, I was this " " close to setting up boot camp to install windows and install AM on windows again then I realised that it was too late, that I would have to email to get another serial key for windows as my mac subscription key wouldn't work and I had to finish the model by today / yesterday so I was like " i'm not going to let this crashing beat me " . . . and so the project was completed, oh and I have a lot of things to note which are doing all sorts of things on mac . . . more soon

yes have tried png too, not being a nit pick but this was all working perfectly back in AM 95 - 98 ! lol I was like yes ! Thats how I want to decal and trace ! on the first day I got AM given to me by Dylan with no prior knowledge I produced 2 x 30 TVC's with character animation ! but these little annoyances now in 2016 is ummm . . . really annoying, I though AM would mature and get better with age !

" would you believe that this is working better and more stable on my Mac ( even with the ma glitches ) than it is on a PC chief ?!

Yes using old school Targa does the same thing . . . On importing rotoscope it comes in like this . . . If I go into Tools/Option/ Global and toggle the realtime driver from Open GL to Open GL 3 and visa versa then . . . . . . it suddenly loads the image and works normal, sometimes the image breaks and becomes garbled after a restart or after a crash, then usually have to toggle the open GL settings again and fiddle around until it comes back again, textures behave similar to this as well sometimes - any clues ? On mac we can change from Nvidia to Native Mac drivers for the video card but this doesn't seem to matter to this problem using either driver - any clues ?

thanks guys, but still does it on twin monitor setup, even if I dock the pallets to where I want it to, every time I launch it again it shifts everything all over the place, have put what happens here : I set the windows and pallets up like this : But on restart ( even if it doesn't crash ) it resets my pallets workspace, I have tried to reset the settings but it still does this once it is restarted like this . . .

Speaking on 3D prints, one of our local 3D printing companies just had this large format printer installed here in Melbourne, Australia, I'm going to see them next week to get some prices ! check it out here : http://www.omus.com.au

opps sorry here you go : can read about it on my blog which I'm just starting up again . . . http://www.aldrichquaihoi.com/blog/ . . . stilt finish with some detailing more pics on the blog

Just finishing this bike model, all built on the Mac, it was crashing like a @!#$%^^ until I got the new 18j update, but still there is issues on mac when importing rotoscopes but we got there eventually ! Working on this fir Dylan from Momentum Animations Fame, now Perry Animations, looking forward to completing a short with him some time soon !

Hi Guys, just noticed that importing images seems not working, I have a FX4800 using the Nvidia drivers and after update to 18p its not importing images, I'll try the mac native driver now and let you know . . . anyone come across this ? Before when it was buggy I found that if I toggle the open GL settings in options it would kick in but now . . hmmm . . let me have another crack

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