shaunf Posted April 2, 2004 Share Posted April 2, 2004 I've been following Victor Navone's development of his facial rig closely, and using a similar system have been able to rig my latest character much more efficietly than in the past. I've completed a small test (no laughing ..... after Victors effort I'm almost embarressed to post it...) with some detail on the bone structure on my webpage. Click here to go to my webpage, then click on the 'The Cuckoo, Animation' link. I'd be interested in peoples thoughts.. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Baker Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Looked pretty good here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted April 3, 2004 Hash Fellow Share Posted April 3, 2004 It looks quite successful. I'd be interested in hearing more about this mouth rig vs. your previous method and in what ways the old system wasn't getting you what you needed. By chance is there a test of the old way we could see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenH Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Damn. He's so good, he's even doing impressions! Nice.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacktaich Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Looks really good, my only suggestion would be exagerating the poses even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfirestine Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Wow, that is cool! I think that Victor's rig technic has some merrits. I am very interested to see more. I like the animation, the movements look very good! Keep posting more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I think is looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunf Posted April 3, 2004 Author Share Posted April 3, 2004 I'd be interested in hearing more about this mouth rig vs. your previous method and in what ways the old system wasn't getting you what you needed. By chance is there a test of the old way we could see Previously I just used basic muscle motion poses. I did this by having poses for each spline, and then used these poses to create other poses which made up the mouth shapes. The downside to this is that you need to create poses for every conceivable mouth shape, and due to the additive nature of the poses, they may not necessarily work well together. Using bones and cp falloff, I can assign bones to single splines using the bones falloff (only available with v11.0, you can't assign bone falloff so specifically in the earlier versions of A:M) and it allows you to just assign bones using cp falloff. They then work in all directions.... up, down, left right. So that takes away a huge number of steps. It also ensures that they all work well together, so that when I use a number of poses at the same time, I can still get a uniform mouth shape. Thanks for the comments so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omoanime Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Shaun, Looks excellent. I am both very impressed and very jealous. Once again, you inspire and educate. Thank you for sharing. I watched it half a dozen times or so to see if there was anything that stood out and the only thing I caught was that her bill bounces or quivers open and close ever so slightly after she is finished saying "Vietnam." But that is being extremely nit-picky. Great work! I am definitely going to spend time studying this and Victor's stuff more. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunf Posted April 3, 2004 Author Share Posted April 3, 2004 I watched it half a dozen times or so to see if there was anything that stood out and the only thing I caught was that her bill bounces or quivers open and close ever so slightly after she is finished saying "Vietnam." Thanks Paul! With regards to the above, I stuck that little quiver in as I saw myself doing it when I was trying the clip out in the mirror and I thought it looked more realistic when I had it in. Although I used Victors ideas, due to the different shape of the head and mouth I had to adapt the idea a fair bit ffor it to work. If people are interested I'll post the same clip with the bones in view so you can see what they are doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlo Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 This is great.. I know that I'd like to see those bones in action! ... please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 As a newbie rigger i must tell you that when i looked at all the bones in cuckoos mouth i nearly puked. But the result is so good I may just have to clean myself up and try it myself ... someday ... far in the future I reckon. Great job Shaun. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunf Posted April 3, 2004 Author Share Posted April 3, 2004 RIghto, here's the same animation rendered in shaded and wireframe mode. Its a little small, but you can make out the individual bones I think. Tell me if its not clear and I'll render out a larger one. http://www.shaunfreeman.com/animation.htm As a newbie rigger i must tell you that when i looked at all the bones in cuckoos mouth i nearly puked. Modernhorse, its really not that bad. It looks messy but only because there is one bone assigned to each spline in the mouth. Hence, lots of bones. Actually constraining it to move with the jaw, and also creating poses getting the correct movement for different lip shapes was not that much of a problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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