nemyax Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Is there a way to control the Bezier handles (or bias handles if you like) in the timeline's f-curve mode? Here's a picture of what I mean—see the point on frame 19: I wasn't able to find anything on the topic in TAOAM.pdf. And if A:M doesn't let you do that, how do you ease in and out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Edmondson Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Is there a way to control the Bezier handles (or bias handles if you like) in the timeline's f-curve mode? Here's a picture of what I mean—see the point on frame 19: I wasn't able to find anything on the topic in TAOAM.pdf. And if A:M doesn't let you do that, how do you ease in and out? It is rare for me to be able to answer a technical question but in this case, thats what I'm currently doing. They are in the modeling panel on the top of the screen. regards simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemyax Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 That works for the modelling windows, not for choreography's timeline. I need this functionality in the timeline: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Edmondson Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 on't know which version you are using ( ?) but it has worked in all the versions I've tried. Presently working in V17. Don't wish to sound patronising but, are you selecting the point you want to edit and, are you opening up the option in the the PWS You can select individual values or have all those associated with that keyed item, in tis case the foot controller... regards simon PS I usually edit in the PWS but, just tried the timeline with this result. The bias handles showed and worked ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted June 27, 2014 Hash Fellow Share Posted June 27, 2014 The bias handles should be visible on a selected CP when "Show bias handles" is on, just as in the modeling window. If all else fails, do Help>Reset Settings and restart and see if that fixes the button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemyax Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 It works, thanks. Turns out you have to click-select a point rather than border-select. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted June 27, 2014 Hash Fellow Share Posted June 27, 2014 And I'll note that if you want to "break" the bias handles, press p, also as in the modeler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemyax Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, I've found that =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted June 27, 2014 Hash Fellow Share Posted June 27, 2014 Yes, I've found that =) I once talked to a guy who had used A:M for years and decided it was "unprofessional" because it "couldn't break the tangents" D'oh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemyax Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 To me, the f-curve editor is quite sound. I'm seeing a couple of quirks, but they're nothing to complain about. The code is probably shared between the geometry splines and the f-curves, so the f-curve behaviour is consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bigboote Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 NemYax, out of curiosity- what program was that screen grab from? The 'P' Rob mentions is short for 'Peak'. A:M's keyframe-channel-timeline editor leaves little to be desired, everything seems to be there and easily worked and found... my problem is that it has 'spoiled me', I try animating in C4D and want to throw the computer thru a window! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemyax Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 what program was that screen grab from? Oi! I hear software comparisons are anathema on this forum! =) That's Blender. Its f-curve editor and dope sheet (not in the A:M sense) have grown to be amazingly neat tools over the years. But the most feature-rich f-curve editor I've seen is in Houdini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted June 27, 2014 Admin Share Posted June 27, 2014 Oi! I hear software comparisons are anathema on this forum! =) Intelligent people can and have had very deep discussions that delve into other software but one of the reasons competitor comparisons are prohibited is that other programs tend to have huge budgets that speak for themselves and throngs of attendants all too eager to present one sided comparisons that have no place here. A topic might start out with good intention but inevitably degrade into mush when someone seeing opportunity to air a petty grievance, plugs their favorite competitor or spreads misinformation all while simultaneously deriding A:M and/or those who programmed it. In the end an entire topic is closed due to the inherent negativity in software comparisons. To make matters worse, the bad blood often generated by personal attacks etc. in such topics suggests it would have been better not to start the topic in the first place. If folks could learn to focus on the positive and how various software can more seamlessly work together you might be surprised what would float to the top in the A:M Forum. Hopefully this helps to demonstrate how a proper approach can avoid the pitfalls (and therefore the forum prohibition) of software comparisons. We must assume that making the most of Animation:Master is the reason we all are here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemyax Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Rodney I can understand that. It's one of those cans of worms, like politics or religion or the dog person/cat person dichotomy. Better left alone. Especially seeing as people can discuss their software experiences via private messaging. I know I'd be happy to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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