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That is why I said in my previous post that you have to turn IK legs ON (hip null will then be effective, knees will bend, etc) as well as turn Hide extra bones ON (so that you don't grab the wrong bones/controls). The poses are located in the user properties/body rig section. After you do that it will be easier to see the remaining things that need to be done (eg cp's that didn't get assigned, better weighting, etc). I will have to go back and check these settings out..I could have sworn that I did turn on those settings....

I've come to call that technique "Frankenspleening." Glad I'm not the only one...while I'm not totally without talent, sometimes modeling, especially human-oid like characters befuddles me. I'd rather get on to telling the story than get overly frustrated with the modeling/rigging part. My bent is more to the writing, directing , producing side of things, but since I'm going this one alone I must soldier on.

Man, Hutch, tough love! I've had the sneaking suspicion that my bad splinig habits would come back to haunt me, and started to draw and quarter poor old man willies last night. While the lack of a symmetrical model will be an issue down the road, it's not the rigging issue I have right now. It may be my simple lack of awareness with the rig (actually that most likely is the issue) but the biggest example of my problems is that the hip null seems to have no effect on the model in a chor. If I grab a hold of the hip null, and move it down, I would expect the knees to bend, the old man to groan because of his aching joints,etc. But what in fact happens is his feet go straight into the ground and the knees do not bend at all....rather disconcerting to the old coot.

Well I'm totally flumuxed! I tries Homeslice's instructions, and wound up back at where I started...nuts! I'll beat this bugger, but I fear I'll have to scrub the model down to no bones or anything else and starting over. If anybody would like to have a go here is the model.. btw, before anybody gets all prais-ey over my modeling prowess, allow me to place this disclaimer: Old Man Willies is based largely on Sir Nigel. I played Dr. Frankenstein and pieced the model together using Sir Nigel's head, hands from here, teeth from over there..etc. I then tweaked, moved cp's to taste, modeled boots, pants etc. Anyhoo, had to give creds where due OldManWillies_Boned_RiggedV2d_LiteRiggedFinal.mdl

Thanks, I'll give that a go tonight. The only issue I have is the arms are in a straight T pose in the modeling window. The left arm dropped down after I did the install action...

So I tried to install the lite rig on Old Man Willies. I followed the steps, honest I did. But it seems that much of the controls or constraints didn't come along for the ride. Is there some way to do a quick re-install into an existing character or should I simply start back at square one? I've added a bunch of other bones (fans, beard) that would be a real pain to recreate, but if I have to I have to. I've attached the model if any are willing to peruse my errors.... OldManWillies_Boned_RiggedV2c_LiteRigged.mdl

! Thanks for the tip, Paul. I've always drank mine "neat". What size straw? The skinny straws that come with the sissy drinks? Or the even skinnier stirrer straws that the "finer establishments" provide to stir the Jack in the coke? It is really just a few drops of water...I use a regular drinking straw..man I'm going to have to trade in my black and tan for a dram of Macallens now!

Macallan is a fine choice. I usually go cheap and stick with a 12 year old, and while the older bottles may be a wee bit smoother, over all the 12 is very very good. Hint: never ever never put ice in your single malt! Instead poor your room temp dram (shot) in a tumbler, then, using a straw, put just a few wee drops of water into it. Swirl it a bit, then savor. Most of the flavor of a good single malt comes from the wood casks they are aged in, put wood tanens into the liquor. Chilling the scotch tightens the tanen molecules, reducing the flavor. A few drops of water allows the tanens to relax, giving a much deeper, fulfilling experience. Every once in a while I'll host whiskey tastings, and this is the first thing I go over, doing a taste test, of a dram without water, and a dram with. I won't even discuss putting other "additives" in a single malt. If you aint drinkin for the flavor, then don't waste your money on a single malt!

I sort of fell bad for poor MacKnuckles...I'm sure he's standing in the corner shaking his wee animated head wonderin just what the bloody heck happened to his thread! I myself haven't got much work done as well since I keep coming back here to see what other hijinks have been posted here! And the 3M folks must have been drinking scotch since to name it for Scottish descent it would have been named Scots Tape...much funner to dream up things whilst drinking uisge beatha (the water of life) or Scotch (me thinks I need to run out and acquire myself a bottle today and get back to work on my own short!)

oh wow! I bow to the master of one liner quick come-backs!

My funny bone received some punitive damage a few responses back...

The monarchy of Scotland and England are/were closely related, having so many intermarriages to cousins, sisters, uncles. Mary Queen of Scots Father was James V, a Stuart. Father was James IV a Stuart Mother Margaret Tudor Source

Just goes tae show ya... take what you find on the internet with a grain of salt...

Nancy- If you keep making jokes like that... I'm staying! As a Campbell meself... I want you to listen to this song about a Campbell- LOL good tune! Campbell's are noted for always being on the right (winning) side of any conflict. The biggest reason the name Campbell is maligned is a little incident called the Glencoe massacre. Blamed on the Campbell clan...wasn't really. If you're interested in the "true" story, from a Campbell's point of view I'll tell it to ya in some other way...won't hijack this poor thread any more!

Mine was a Fordor proud descendant of a Campbell. Past president of the oldest Scottish benevolent society in New York State (210 years so far), past NY state commissioner of Clan Campbell Society of North America, president of the Capital District Scottish Society, and all around good guy! Pleased to make your acquaintance, and welcome to the brotherhood/sisterhood of the Celts!

I have an associate at the music store where I teach, whose name is Armstrong. He assures me steadfastly that the clan MacKnuckles hails from Glascow. Is that Glasgow or Glascow, as in see-thru bovine? My granpappy hailed from Forfar, Aberdeenshire.

oh man, that is the granddaddy of all bad puns.

perhaps we need a thread dedicated to bad puns?!?

I wear my tartan wi pride, blah hard on me pipes, and can drink any Irishman under the table, any day 'o the week.

Aye lad, toss back a dram and throw a wee telephone pole aroon, now that's fun! btw from a Scotsman, it's Scotsman, it's a prideful nationality, not a name. And it would be MacKnuckles, McKnuckles would be his good for nothing Irish cousin!

Question: what are the constraints and weighting you used for the two fan bones in your example? I can see the value of adding the extra spline rings, something I already suspected, so I've added those, but it's unclear to me how you would derive the constraint percentages.

Like it was mentioned earlier, if you create the 5 point patch first, then apply the hook it works..if for any reason you have to re-do the 5 point patch, you have to break the hook, do the 5 pointer, then re-apply the hook.. Found that out quite by accident whilst breaking all the rules from splinig 101!

Rule number one....never "assume". It wasn't...but it is now. Also, I weighted the center spline 100% to the fan bone. It is a wee bit better, but still a bit too much creased for my liking. Would tinkering with the weights on the elbow rings be the answer, or is smartskin the way to go to get the final tweeks in?

I'm trying my first "real" rig and needless to say all is not well in 3D land. I am using the lite rig and am experimenting with the elbow joint as a starter. I've placed a fan bone, with cp weighting as follows: elbow ring nearest shoulder Bicep 75% forarm 25%, center ring 50/50, third ring 25/75. The elbow still deforms unkindly, and it doesn't seem like the fan bone is doing much of anything (it has a 50/50 orient like constraint to the bicep and forearm) Thoughts? Untitled.mov

This may explain why the stray ankylosauri are so hard to place at the animal adoption center. Apparently these things were elephant-sized so they probably didn't do much lunging. Herbivorous, of course; they might smash you but they wouldn't actually eat you. tell that to the blokes who get chomped on by the hippo-a saurous! The thought that I had with your test was happy puppy with that wagging tail...didn't go with the cranky look on the face