MSFlynn Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Some shots of the model I was working on for the Image Contest before I had to abandon it: Front Shock Assembly Thruster Exhausts Angled Frontal View Angled Side View Quote
pelonppp Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Hi this is a good model good work you can show me some wirez od the tire please see you Quote
martin Posted July 12, 2006 Posted July 12, 2006 Wow. Too bad you couldn't get that done in time for the contest, Mike. I'll tell you what - finish it up, contribute the project to the "Extras" DVD, and we'll send you a "Painting with Fire" DVD, and include the image in the "Mechanical Contest" webpage as an entry, (with your name on it, of course). Quote
MSFlynn Posted July 13, 2006 Author Posted July 13, 2006 Wow. Too bad you couldn't get that done in time for the contest, Mike. I'll tell you what - finish it up, contribute the project to the "Extras" DVD, and we'll send you a "Painting with Fire" DVD, and include the image in the "Mechanical Contest" webpage as an entry, (with your name on it, of course). Thnaks Martin. The real issue is whether or not the Extras DVD is going to be a dual layer affair - currently, the Battle Juggernaut project is about 295 mb. (That's including all the PSD and CDR support files which take up about 135 mb at the moment.) I certainly have no reservations about contributing it, I just don't know what size limitiations we're talking about. Quote
MSFlynn Posted July 13, 2006 Author Posted July 13, 2006 you can show me some wirez od the tire please Only if you promise not to cry... For those who don't know me (many would consider you lucky), when it comes to my own projects, I don't care about patch counts or render times. As I mentioned a few months back, although I never "left" AM, I haven't done much with it for a few years. This Battle Juggetnaut is really me just "flexing" and relearning AM. That said, the tires are straight modeling - no displacement, no booleans. Big tires: 34,322 patches each. Small tires: 4,364 each. Big Tire Wireframe Big Tire Shaded Wireframe Small Tire Wireframe Small Tire Shaded Wireframe I tried something a little different with this model - I modeled it in pieces and assembled them in the Choreography, translating, oritenting and scaling them to the main body via constraints. Quote
oakchas Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 Scary patch count... man, that could stand to be optimized... but I'm lovin' it... just the way it is. Quote
brainmuffin Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 I have to disagree. I think the huge patch count is why you had to abandon it. What you did with the wheels could have been accomplished with alpha and displacement maps, and it wouldn't have taken as loong to model or render... Quote
MSFlynn Posted July 13, 2006 Author Posted July 13, 2006 I have to disagree. I think the huge patch count is why you had to abandon it. What you did with the wheels could have been accomplished with alpha and displacement maps, and it wouldn't have taken as loong to model or render... They wouldn't look the same either - which is why I don't care about patch counts and render times on my own projects - I want what I want to look how I want it; I won't compromise my vision just to be done faster. And the high patch count is not why I abandonded it - I was doing it for the Mechanical contest and ran out of time. Since Martin would like to see on the Extras DVD, I will continue working on it. Quote
pelonppp Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 Hi. NO MAMES!!! (sorry but i don´t say this in english) I don´t saw a mesh like that in A-M before. my first question is, what computer you have? the second is , how many time you take doing this model? i think you had the record for the spline count in a model see you Quote
MSFlynn Posted July 13, 2006 Author Posted July 13, 2006 my first question is, what computer you have? the second is , how many time you take doing this model? i think you had the record for the spline count in a model 1: An old 1.333ghz AMD with 768mb PC100 RAM. 2: A few hours a day for about 5 weeks. I probably have some old files somewhere with higher patch counts. Quote
Zaryin Posted July 13, 2006 Posted July 13, 2006 That is freakin' crazy! Would have been nice to have seen this one in the contest. Quote
MSFlynn Posted July 20, 2006 Author Posted July 20, 2006 Just to make sure people know that I haven't abandoned the project, here's a rear view shot with the engine housing and thruster exhausts: Rear View Quote
MSFlynn Posted July 24, 2006 Author Posted July 24, 2006 Here's a new render from the rear showing the cannon turret. Rear Cannon Turret Quote
MSFlynn Posted August 8, 2006 Author Posted August 8, 2006 I've spent the last couple of weeks trying to come up with a cannon that goes on the rear turret. I've finally got something I'm mostly happy with. Patch count is currently 2,245. I would expect it to rise to over 3,000 before I'm finished. Rear Cannon I'm using 13.e and it seems from this render that the chrome cooling cylinder near the muzzle (I used a boolean cutter here) isn't casting shadows. Quote
3DArtZ Posted August 8, 2006 Posted August 8, 2006 Ummmm, oh my gosh! so let me ask you, why didn't you use cookie cutters for the holes in the wheels instead? Thickness of the object? Mike Fitz www.3dartz.com Quote
MSFlynn Posted August 9, 2006 Author Posted August 9, 2006 Ummmm, oh my gosh! so let me ask you, why didn't you use cookie cutters for the holes in the wheels instead? Thickness of the object? Mike Fitz www.3dartz.com Because I wanted an "it doesn't matter how finished these tires look because they are tires and are just going to get beat to hell anyways" feel. I purposedly modeled them to have facets and anomalies. Same with the front axel smack plate. Besides, modeling the holes didn't dramtically increase the patch count - the studs detail is what kicked it up more than anything. I don't purposely try and create high patch counts - I add as many splines as I think I need to get the look I want. If I end up with too many, I'm generally not going to go back and redo that section. One of things I tried to do with this model is use a "fractal" mentality - I've tried to model the different parts with self-similarity. When it became questionable that I might not be able to complete it in time for the contest, I also grabbed bits and pieces from old projects, modified them, then copied them and modified the modifications by resizing, squashing and stretching. Quote
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