*A:M User* Roger Posted October 19, 2019 *A:M User* Share Posted October 19, 2019 Disney Star Wars....what can I say. Spend $4 Billion on a golden goose and then proceed to strangle the eggs out of it. While there were things I liked in Last Jedi I feel like it had very little connection to the previous film, and was less than what it could have been. And Force Awakens seemed an awful lot like a clone of A New Hope, but they did at least seem to be setting up some interesting ideas. Which Last Jedi then promptly threw out with the bathwater. All these people had to do was film a competent adaptation of the Timothy Zahn novels or Dark Empire and they would have made all the money they wanted and more. Since it seems they had no interest in using George's ideas. I've seriously never seen a franchise that is more hostile to its fans. But Disney openly tolerates its employees abusing and crapping on the fans. Seems like an odd way to go about making money, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted October 19, 2019 Hash Fellow Share Posted October 19, 2019 Disney stock went up quite a bit when the deal to buy Lucasfilm was announced but since the actual Star Wars movies have come out it has not done as well as the S&P500 I made a point to go see "The Force Awakens" in the theater when it came out but it made me decide i did not need to rush out to see any of the future movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*A:M User* Roger Posted October 19, 2019 Author *A:M User* Share Posted October 19, 2019 Sadly, and it pains me to say this, but you're not missing much. I think unless they stick the landing on the 9th movie, George will be buying the IP rights back at a fire-sale price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*A:M User* Roger Posted October 22, 2019 Author *A:M User* Share Posted October 22, 2019 I've been thinking about this some more. I really think that if Disney had gotten their story straight for all 3 films before filming and stuck with one director rather than switching in the middle, that they would have had a much stronger story. Maybe it wouldn't have been the Star Wars that George would have made, maybe not everyone would have been head over heels in love with it, but I don't think it would have split the fan base the way the new films have. Disney has a tall order ahead of them, because this final movie has to try and tie all those loose ends up, heal the rift in the fanbase, and provide a satisfactory ending to the saga. I would not want to be in JJ Abrams' shoes right now. I don't want to see this movie fail, because there might not be anything after this. I just wish Disney had paid as much attention to Star Wars as they did with their Marvel movies. Finally, I don't think anyone truly had a problem with a female lead. What they had a problem with was a female lead that was magically good at everything, without any kind of normal arc along the Hero's Journey. There have been all kinds of strong female protagonists in recent sci-fi history: Linda Hamilton in Terminator I & II, Sigourney Weaver from the Aliens movies, and Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio's character in The Abyss. I think if Rey had a more realistic character arc, she would have resonated better with fans. **Final note: it is entirely possible to have both strong men and women in movies. I think The Abyss is a really good example of this, or the original Terminator. You don't need to tear the men down to build the women up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted October 22, 2019 Hash Fellow Share Posted October 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, Roger said: Finally, I don't think anyone truly had a problem with a female lead. What they had a problem with was a female lead that was magically good at everything, without any kind of normal arc along the Hero's Journey. I got the sense that "hero's journey" was a later on the to-do list after they packed in all the explosions and blasters they felt they needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Rodney Posted October 22, 2019 Admin Share Posted October 22, 2019 This latest trailer has me itching to see the film. Fans will find something to complain about. That's the nature of fanatics and why they are (literally and figuratively) called fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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