modernhorse Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Hello - This is a little project for my wife whose favorite flower is mildly hinted at by the attached. I started with this by going for a more realistic flower scene but couldn't help myself (after watching Fantasia again) by trying something less literal. I'm posting for your impressions in particular for the pose. How does it read? Thanks. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachBG Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Pose wise... seems a little static. Maybe you could incline them both towards each other, so they're not quite so balanced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubber Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 true... modernhorse, I like the idea very much! Are you considering to add some environment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Thanks for looking guys. Will work on the pose and post an update with an environment soon. Grubber - hilarious avatar! Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Here's an update. All texturing is temporary. Comments welcome as always. Is pose stronger now? Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachBG Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Much stronger! They look like they're in love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubber Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Looks even better! I would suggest to change the vase, because it attracts to much attention from the characters. Grubber - hilarious avatar! Thanks oh by the way: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 Thanks again guys! Here's an update. I'll post wires later. I want to make the lighting more dramatic. I'll be working on that next. Cheers! Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypnomike Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 The lighting makes a big difference. The vase is now less intrusive. Good work. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted December 12, 2004 Hash Fellow Share Posted December 12, 2004 I think more R&D is needed. While they are more intimate in the new pose, the humanoid appearance isn't reading well. Perhaps something with two curves drawn together like two parentheses: )( or maybe () It's a tough problem. But I know you can do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted December 12, 2004 Author Share Posted December 12, 2004 Tried with radiosity, mostly stock settings. Attached for your pleasure. Perhaps something with two curves drawn together like two parentheses: Robcat - I'm afraid I don't quite understand. Pose isn't dramatic enough? Right now I'm sort of stuck between flower and human, is that what you're getting at? I'll play some more with the pose. Thanks for the input. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaryin Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I like it, but I don't like how they're floating in mid-air in the vase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted December 13, 2004 Author Share Posted December 13, 2004 Thanks Zaryin, You're right the stems do need to be lengthened. They're sposed to be sitting on the rim of the vase though. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 Friday update. Changed lighting a bit, changed pose a bit, and adjusted the camera angle. This has to be about done, and though I'm pretty pleased with how it's turning out I'd still be open to some focused critique (ya know for the next one). Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachBG Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Hmm... are you worried that their stems are too short to get any water and will dry out? Looks good. Nice and evocative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted December 18, 2004 Author Share Posted December 18, 2004 Thanks Zach ! Yupper still need to lengthen those stems, thanks for the reminder! Here's another minor update. I added fog to give a bit of a dreamy quality. Now working on rendering for print. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hash Fellow robcat2075 Posted December 18, 2004 Hash Fellow Share Posted December 18, 2004 Darn, I missed the print deadline! Oh, well... How about if her head was on his shoulder? and nudge her torso out a tad. That would get us closer to the () arrangement. Not that that is gold or anything, but I think there might be too many parallel elements right now. Another idea: how about changing the frame from landscape orientation to "portrait". It's vertical composition, a vertical frame would strengthen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaudrin Posted December 19, 2004 Share Posted December 19, 2004 To respond to what robcat is saying, I think if you worked the mechanics of the flower more to give it a more natural feel the poses might be stronger. Also the torso might be too large on the male flower, it reads weird to me. I love the concept, and your modeling looks awesome, keep up the good work my two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modernhorse Posted December 20, 2004 Author Share Posted December 20, 2004 Thanks for your replies. Robcat - I see what you mean re: parallel elements. My eye didn't pick that up until you said that. how about changing the frame from landscape orientation to "portrait". Good one! How would I do that, just by adjusting the camera? I'm storing that idea away. Rvaudrin - Thanks alot for your very nice comments. I also see what you mean about the size of the male flower. I was going for high contrast between the male and female, and trying to make the male very strong - sort of playing on the romantic "ideals" of both sexes. Perhaps I went a bit too far. The project is now finished with the exception of rendering and printing. I needed to stop in order to finish this up by Christmas. I have learned a whole lot in doing this and I appreciate everyone's guidance along the way. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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