Raven's plan

[paradymx]

I'm trying to put together a portfolio and I want to thank you guys for all your help and crits. I think I'm almost there.

 

This is really an extended topic from the KeeKat's Secret and Lypsyching the cowboy where I asked the question on lipsyching methods.

 

This is using the "manual" method; which at this point I KNOW gets the best results.

Raven.mov

 

 

This is the "long" one I was referring to to. Didn't take as long as i thought it would. On this one though, I don't think its as good as the Cowboy. I believe it comes from the poses which was mentioned in one of the other topics(go figure). The cowboy's poses were done by a master, and Raven's done by me (rank amateur if even).

 

 

Here are the poses. I won't list what they are cause you should be able to tell if they are good poses(I think I see an issue already)

 

 

 

 

As usual any C&C is welcome

Thanks

[higginsdj]

The animation is OK though a little wooden in places ie in places there is only lip movement going on and nothing else - no-one sits that still, but the whole mood and action/acting is pretty good.

 

Lets look at the lip synch. The sound and mouth shapes are out of synch for most parts - 2 or 3 frame off. Another problem is that you have chosen phonetic shapes for a given sound without concern for the average sound - ie your shapes are for the emphasised sound so when you use the 'a' shape for a subdued 'a' sound it looks overstated. Another issue (and it may just be style) is that the upper lip has a bow shape - ie you have bent it halfway to each corner only to give it shape. It leaves the upper lip with an odd shape.

 

Cheers

[John Bigboote]

HEY! Thats fun! What movie is that from? That's some pretty good work! A little more tweeking...

[paradymx]

thanks for the comments guys

 

higginsdj

I see what you mean about the strong versus the weak poses. I think that's why sometimes I feel like I'm over acting the scene. As for the timing: I haven't figured how to solve that problem. If you remember I think you made the same comment on my cowboy project. What is happening is that when I scrub through the sound in AM its not quite spot on. And with some of the sound wavs I use the waveform is not always tell tell. I think if I move the sound in post it would be okay.

 

John Bigboote

Its from the movie "Mean Girls" with Lynsey Lohan. Its the speech janis(can't remember the actress' name) gives during their little "rally" It was going to be this or the opening monologue from "jawbreaker"(another high school girl movie) but this has much more energy and range.