if you do mind maybe you can highlight on a post or a link a 1 or 2 panel image link that shows a synopsis on how you've eliminated the lumpiness that occurs in the model in those areas. Maybe it is because i modeling most of my car parts as individual pieces like car paneling, doors etc. Most people model those sreas as one piece but i wish to animate the doors and hoods as free moving objects maybe my meshes/splines need more detail? ............. Ohh sorry did I say .. Again love the car mann!!!!!!!!!