I think I get all this, I have gone through the entire Jason Hampton video meticulously and it is quite informative...still, I can't get my model's dress to behave. It crumples up around her and goes chaotic whenever I move her at all. I'm still doing something wrong...just can't figure it out. I even tried reducing the dress spline count tremendously (the calculation before was long) and redo the entire set up, still mess... Is there a tut somewhere showing the actual process of dressing a character and animating the moves? The Nimmee Aimee thing you sent was how the flag and pole worked, which is fine, but animating the flag pole "disconnects" from the flag, so... I',m sorry but I'm still in the dark... I need my character to move and the dress according to her movements. I know when I get this I'll be elated.