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I like both styles. The first thing I notices is the stars do not move in the background. Maybe if the star field went by with different stars moving at different speeds so some look close and some farther away would add some feeling of movement. Like the bots a lot.

Robert's the TSM guru but I have had this problem and so have others when doing everything correct. This is a link to that topic. http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32122 I hope it helps you find the solution. The one thing I do know is it has no adverse affect on the model. It's just annoying to look at.

He has personnality. It makes me want to see more.

Great work guys! Love the song. Aaron was a hoot!

PERFECT! I need to test some more but the left hand works now and I think I am back in business! Thanks again Mark

I have the Barry Zundel's Animation Master Training videos also and I agree, they are well worth the money.

Thanks Mark, I'll try that tonight after work and see how it goes.

With TSM2 I found that if I saved right after running Rigger, then restarted A:M and reloaded the character most of the text strings would appear properly. However they are just display names, and don't affect the working of the rig. Usually it's the word "Relationship", but i forget what 4386 is. I closed and restarted AM, then restarted teh model and it seems to have cleared up the most if not all the names. Thanks Robert,

Yes I did use the "Mirror Constraints". What is the proper way to mirror the constraints without "Mirror Constraints"? What do you suggest for me to get my model working right? Thanks Mark

Well I think everything is working now and the weights are all right. I have a small issue with the rotation of the fingers on the left hand not working. Only the pinky works. Not sure where this problem is coming from. Anyone seen this problem? The only other problem I see is in the "Relations". They have an error loading the name strings for the relationship. It does not seem to affect anything functioning. I recall seeing this error with the TSM2 rig when I got it and used it in v14c. Has anyone seen this in v15i with the 2008rig? I can probably correct it in a text editor with a little effort.

I don't understand but that seemed to make a big difference. I didn't check it because I understood that would make it ignore the opposite case. i.e. "Right" is search string with case sensitive ON would not mirror "right". I will give it a hard look and let you know if there are still any problems. Thanks,

Thanks for looking at this Mark. I have a couple pics below to help answer the questions. The bones I added are all below the MirrorBones bone. I ran the Mirrorbones plugin by selecting the MirrorBones bone, right click, and select the mirrorbones plugin. The fans are added before I ran the plugin as you can see in one pic. I actually have tried to complete all the weighting, smartskinning, fan bones, and relationships on new fan bones, all prior to the mirrorbones process. I was careful not alter, move, add or subtract from any relationships in the 2008rig. All mine are in a separate folder as shown below. I thought that way I would get everything on the left for free. (silly me) I saved the model before mirroring (that's the pic below) so I could return to a fixed point if there was a problem. I did not run the mirror a second time since the fans were all part of the RightHalf prior to mirroring. EDIT: I am using v15i if that has an impact.

The bones and CP weights seem to be pretty good for the RIGHT side now. I was continuing with the instructions for the 2008 rig to mirror bones and finish the install. Now I am getting strange issue and I don't know what I am doing wrong. The weighting for the CP's is not FULLY transferring to the Left side. The bones are mirrored and the CP's are mirrored, and the bone names are Right_*** and Left_***. Some CP's on the left are only taking part of the weight assignments. I used the settings from the 2008rig installation instructions to mirrorbones. Any idea why its not assigning to the weights for Right*** to Left***?

I have placed some dynamics on the lower pant legs, breast, and ear ring. The bottom of the shirt needs to have some natural follow that is not built in yet. The back of the shirt when bent is sticking out too far I think. The body portion seems to be close. Thanks for the explanations of why I need to change things.. They go much farther than just what to move to fix it.

thanks Robert. Seems You and David have seen the same errors. I'm not defending my bone positions but I would like to show how I placed them and get more of your feedback. I used a set of skeleton rotoscopes that I distorted to roughly fit her proportions. as you can see from the pics. Can you please help me understand where my thinking went off track? This is how I thought I could get good bone placement but if this is not going to work I am ready to learn. The "NULL" you asked about is the body null of the 2008 rig that parents everything but the "steady" and "balance" bones. I adjusted the back bone to what you and David suggested. It definitely helped. I added one fan bone to smooth and help put forwards a bit. I still need to work on the bottom of the shirt. What do you think?