ChrisThom Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 I love all the Anzovin training CDs that I have gotten so far and would love to get more but I'm getting poor buying all these. Maybe there is a frequent buyer program from Anzovin that I don't know about (hint, hint)?!? Quote
vf124 Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 I love all the Anzovin training CDs that I have gotten so far... Chris, do you own the "Face Modeling CD" by Young? Is it suitable for the older beginner ? I believe this is the same Bill Young who designed keekat...neat... Quote
Bill_Y Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 I love all the Anzovin training CDs that I have gotten so far and would love to get more but I'm getting poor buying all these. Maybe there is a frequent buyer program from Anzovin that I don't know about (hint, hint)?!? Well I know we offer the bundles to keep costs down for people; however, I don't think there is a "frequent buyer" program. I think you might want to contact Steve (steve@anzovin.com) directly if you want to make a custom bundle. I'm pretty sure he has done that before, and it might be able to save you a few bucks; however, I'm not really the authority on those matters. Quote
Bill_Y Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 Chris, do you own the "Face Modeling CD" by Young? Is it suitable for the older beginner ? I tryed to make it suitable for every one; however, diferent people learn diferently. Some people might find the pace a bit slower than they might like, others might find it to quick. I just tryed to keep it clear. Interestingly this seems to be a very popular CD over at Umass Amherst right now, one of the TA's has been touting it as the CD every one in the class should have. Was kind of flattering. I believe this is the same Bill Young who designed keekat...neat... Well I didn't design Keykat as it was created by the people at Paw Island Entertainment Inc., but I did model him. Quote
vf124 Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 ...a very popular CD over at Umass Amherst right now...Excellent!!! Hope this doesn't slow up my order... ...but I did model him. Being a newbie, I'm guessing that's the hard part Quote
Bill_Y Posted April 13, 2004 Posted April 13, 2004 Being a newbie, I'm guessing that's the hard part Actually to me modeling is one of the easier aspects of the animation process IMO... But then thats just me... Quote
vf124 Posted April 15, 2004 Posted April 15, 2004 William, looks like your CD is "in demand"...my order got held up for a bit... ! However...my Jeff Lew DVD showed up... Quote
ChrisThom Posted April 15, 2004 Author Posted April 15, 2004 I actually ordered the Face bundle a couple of weeks ago and have been going through them and am finding them very helpful. It is interesting to me to see how different people address the same subject. When I look at Bill's modeling techniques vs. Colin Freeman's vs. David Rogers' I can see several similarities and several differences. Bottom line is that there is no one way to do something. So I'm taking a few elements from each and combining them to my own style which seems to be working so far. Back to the topic at hand. I would still like to get several more CDs (materials, secrets 2003 & Non-linear) but between those and trying to update to V11 I'm going broke and it seems like no one wants to part with their used videos!!! Maybe it was just wishful thinking that Anzovin would have a buy 4 get one free deal . And while I have your attention, Bill are there any plans to update some of the older videos to the newer software versions? In particular Non-linear & face rigging. Quote
Bill_Y Posted April 15, 2004 Posted April 15, 2004 I actually ordered the Face bundle a couple of weeks ago and have been going through them and am finding them very helpful. It is interesting to me to see how different people address the same subject. When I look at Bill's modeling techniques vs. Colin Freeman's vs. David Rogers' I can see several similarities and several differences. Bottom line is that there is no one way to do something. So I'm taking a few elements from each and combining them to my own style which seems to be working so far. It's true that there are several ways to get similar results when modeling; however, One of the questions I always ask is how animatable something is going to be. Some techniques can make very nice looking still faces, but when you go to set them up for animation they can suddenly run in to limitations. The face modeling CD was intended to explain why splines were placed the way they were for the purposes of animation, not just making a decent looking modeled face. Does this mean it's better than other techniques? Well I am a bit biased to my technique as I know why I did what I did; however, the truth is no it's not necessarily better than any one elses so long as they achieve the level of animatable detail control a user wishes. I would still like to get several more CDs (materials, secrets 2003 & Non-linear) but between those and trying to update to V11 I'm going broke and it seems like no one wants to part with their used videos!!! Again feel free to talk with Steve. If you already have some of the CD's in a bundle, he'll have record of it, and I believe he might remove them from an existing bundle that contains those CD's reducing the price of that bundle; however, you need to email Steve to get the full scoop on this, because as I said I'm really not the person who knows how this stuff is supposed to work. Maybe it was just wishful thinking that Anzovin would have a buy 4 get one free deal . Bundles. Most stores have a buy a bundle of something, at one time get a bonus of something else; however, if you buy over time, the only thing that might help is trying to see if Steve will sell you a bundle minus the Cd's you already have... Again I'm not sure about this, thus "Contact Steve" (steve@anzovin.com) And while I have your attention, Bill are there any plans to update some of the older videos to the newer software versions? In particular Non-linear & face rigging. Well I'll say this.. there are plans for more videos and some remakes of older videos in the future. I don't wish to start rumors as to wich CD's these will be yet as we'll assess the demand a bit closer to production time; however, I know that there has been discussion of potentially remaking the NLA and Face Rigging CD's. It should be noted that the techniques in the existing CD's will still work, but the new CD's would cover other potential techniques. Quote
Bill_Y Posted April 15, 2004 Posted April 15, 2004 William, looks like your CD is "in demand"...my order got held up for a bit... ! However...my Jeff Lew DVD showed up... Cool, I've herd nothing but good things about Jeff's DVD's. He's a really nice guy, and use to work a few towns away from here a few years back (North Adams, MA). As for the hold up, Steve had a quadruple bypass, and so some of the orders got a little delayed as others tried to fill his shoes. Hope it wasn't to much of an inconvenience. (Side note: He's doing a lot better now) Quote
ChrisThom Posted April 15, 2004 Author Posted April 15, 2004 The face modeling CD was intended to explain why splines were placed the way they were for the purposes of animation, not just making a decent looking modeled face. And this is one of the things that I loved about your CD. It not only covers the how but also the why. I have gone through too many tuts that tell you "do this, now do this" but leave me asking why I just did what I did and to what end. As stated, I love your CD it is just interesting to see the interpretation of others on the same subject. Bundles. Most stores have a buy a bundle of something, at one time get a bonus of something else; however, if you buy over time, the only thing that might help is trying to see if Steve will sell you a bundle minus the Cd's you already have... Again I'm not sure about this, thus "Contact Steve" (steve@anzovin.com)And I love the bundle concept, it's just the matter of having to shell out $X all at once. My secret wish would be that it would be like Subway. After you buy 10 subs the 11th one's free. I will email Steve to see what options are available to me. Well I'll say this.. there are plans for more videos and some remakes of older videos in the future. I don't wish to start rumors as to wich CD's these will be yet as we'll assess the demand a bit closer to production time; however, I know that there has been discussion of potentially remaking the NLA and Face Rigging CD's. It should be noted that the techniques in the existing CD's will still work, but the new CD's would cover other potential techniques. I very much look forward to future news on this. Also, if you could think about throwing Raf's original Character Rigging video in the mix too that would be awesome. Thanx Bill for being so responsive. Quote
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