flashawd Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 Hello - I have a client that wants an animation project for a website - and she also wants it put on a High Definition DVD - Does anyone know anything about that, and if it would be rendered at a different setting or something? I have made DVDs, using a render of the animation from AM and making a DVD from it with Premiere, but wasn't sure about HD DVD. Any info would be great. Thanks, Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzawacki Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 You might want to check into an HD-DVD burner first.. to see if it's worth the cost. Unless you are going to outsource burning the HD-DVDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashawd Posted January 29, 2008 Author Share Posted January 29, 2008 Hi Jzawacki - thank you - that pretty much answeres my question - it's the hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdaley Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 HAven't you heard? HD-DVD is losing the format war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzawacki Posted January 29, 2008 Share Posted January 29, 2008 We'll just have to wait and see.. there are two ways to look at it.. First, if they really "lose", then there should be a bunch of HD-DVDs in the discount bin for cheap.. Time to pick some up.. Second, if Sony does win, they will be able to stop giving the $4 per movie discount. That would in turn cause the cost per Blueray disc to go up. Being a monopoly on HD discs, they will be able to do whatever they want with the prices.. Hopefully it will be at that point that people realize that Sony is evil and HD-DVDs may be reborn. We'll just have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashawd Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 Yes, I heard they were loosing the war - I was just in Target yesterday and Blueray has a hugh display telling how much better and more info their DVD's hold. Anyway, I have a client set on having her animation put on HD DVD - just wasn't sure how to go about it. There is a local Video Production place which probably does- they can probably do it, I'm just not sure what to bring them - I don't really want to buy the hardware - like you mentioned if they get beat out. On the output side of it - is there anything different you do in AM when exporting it - or is the HD DVD just a result of the being burned using a HD DVD drive - this may be a dumb question, but I know nill about it. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tralfaz Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 HAven't you heard? HD-DVD is losing the format war. This seems to change from week to week. A while ago, I read on the CNN website where HD was going to win because the Porn industry was backing it and was going release their videos on HD only. Apparently, that is what mainly caused VHS to win out over Beta (that and Sony was keeping Beta proprietary, unlike JVC which pretty much handed out VHS licenses). My son said Blue-Ray is going to win because it comes in the PS3. Me? I am just going to wait and see. I have a Toshiba DVD player that upscales to 1080P and regular DVDs look great on our Toshiba 26" LCD TV. Actually, so do DivX videos. Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliotclem1 Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Blu-ray will win the format war as Warner have just signed to go to blu-ray. Also woolworths Uk's famous retailer only sell blu-ray. They only sell HD DVD on there website. This is because blu-ray outsold HD DVD out by 10:1. I currently own a PS3 and they are great so maybe I am biased. PS3 2008 - Xbox 360 2007 Sorry for the unrelevent post lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largento Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I own both and buy Blu when there's a choice. In the end, content is everything and Blu-Ray has the lion's share of it, most notably Disney. How is any family going to make a choice for Hi-Def that *doesn't* include Disney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdaley Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 On the output side of it - is there anything different you do in AM when exporting it - or is the HD DVD just a result of the being burned using a HD DVD drive - this may be a dumb question, but I know nill about it. ;-) Set the camera size to be the hi-def size that the client wants: 1080 or 720. This is a LOT bigger than DV size. You'll need a lot of RAM to do it, as well as a lot patience. NetRender was built for just this kind of job. As an aside, content is what the 'war' boils down to. Game consoles cloud the matter a little, but the number of studios aligned with blu-ray outweighs hd-dvd. Sony alone owns the rights to the old Columbia, Tri-star and MGM titles, not to mention the newer Sony branded stuff (Spider-Man). Don't know what MGM owns? Try James Bond. As hefty as the porn vote is, I think it was motivated by the fact that hd-dvd discs are cheaper to reproduce than blu-ray, not because of any concern over the superority of the disc. I think the mainstream content is going to win it for blu-ray on this one. Sony will be vindicated for the Beta debacle and Microsoft will have to spin why they will eventually retire their interest in HD-DVD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jzawacki Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Well, I don't think the porn industry has anything to say about it. If you've watched any true HD content (not upconverted content) you will notice that you can see a lot more flaws in people. Add those flaws to the porn industry and you have a whole lot of porn nobody wants to watch. Anyway, before rendering anything, ask the company that will be writing it to HD-DVD what exactly the format needs to be, and how you should provide it to them. I would assume if it won't fit onto a data DVD that you would have to cut it up into sections and burn it to a bunch of DVDs for them to reassemble in their shop. Of course, that all depends on how much content you have. Last I read, the average HD movie is 20-30GB in size, not including extra stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largento Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I was unaware of this until recently, but if you read up on the format wars at Wikipedia, you'll find Microsoft is a big player in them. This from the HD-DVD entry about trying to avoid a format war: In an attempt to avoid a costly format war, the Blu-ray Disc Association and DVD Forum started to negotiate a compromise in early 2005. One of the issues was that Blu-ray's supporters wanted to use a Java-based platform for interactivity (BD-J), while the DVD Forum was promoting Microsoft's "iHD" (which became HDi). A much larger issue, though, was the physical formats of the discs themselves; the Blu-ray Disc Association's member companies did not want to risk losing billions of dollars in royalties as they had done with standard DVD. An agreement seemed close, but negotiations proceeded slowly. At the end of June 2005, Sun announced that the Blu-ray Association had chosen the Java-based BD-J interactivity layer instead of Microsoft's HDi. This was based on a BDA board vote favouring BD-J 10 to 4, despite a technical committee previously favouring HDi by a vote of 7 to 5. At the same time, Microsoft and Toshiba jointly announced that they would cooperate in developing high-definition DVD players. In a top-level meeting in July, Microsoft's Bill Gates argued that the Blu-ray standard had to change to "work more smoothly with personal computers". The Blu-ray Disc's representatives defended the technology. On August 22, 2005, the Blu-ray Disc Association and DVD Forum announced that the negotiations to unify their standards had failed. Rumours surfaced that talks had stalled; publicly, the same reasons of physical format incompatibility were cited In the end of September, Microsoft and Intel jointly announced their support for HD DVD. Hewlett Packard (HP) made a last ditch attempt to broker a peace between the Blu-ray Disc Association and Microsoft. HP demanded that the Blu-ray association adopted Microsoft's HDi instead of its own Java solution, and that Blu-ray adopt a mandatory managed copy feature. If their demands weren't met, HP threatened to support HD DVD instead. In a research report, Gartner analysts Van Baker, Laura Behrens and Mike McGuire wrote that if HP's proposal was accepted, Blu-ray would become the winner of the format war. However, the Blu-ray Disc group did not accept HP's offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashawd Posted January 30, 2008 Author Share Posted January 30, 2008 I really appreciate all the info - I actually called about 40 post houses and couldn't find anyone that could do it. I finally found 2 in Burbank, CA and yes they just need it in .mov format at 1920x1080 at 29.97fps. Which I noticed in the export settings of AM. So, If my computer will handle it, it looks like it will work. They charge $125 for 30- 60 seconds put on the HD DVD. Thanks again - Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashawd Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Just thought I would add this to the discussion - http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/pop...22&src=news It's the Blu-ray vs DVD - new clip Have a great weekend, -Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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