seven Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Modeling a Caricature of Bush I have used one of Alain Desrochers caricatures from the Extra CD and remade it somewhat. What do you think? Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 If someone wants to have a try modeling a caricature of Bush; Here is the Project file - with Model file and bitmaps: bush_caricature01.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 Alain Desrochers has a tutorial section on his site: http://www.hash.com/users/alweb/tutcorner.html You can have a look at his latest facial mesh: http://www.hash.com/users/alweb/tutorial1/facemesh.htm And he is telling you: This is my version of a "concentric mask paradigm" mesh like the one illustrate in this classic : Mando face tutorial Also inspired from modeling infos find in Animation master handbook by Jeff Paries's ...and I grab some infos on the subject here and there on internet... At first view, nothing really new in this facial mesh ... but the approach is totally different than the other exposed on my other tutorials.Basically the mesh splines rotate around a closed circular mouth spline. This mesh give me good result on facial action because it copy well the natural muscle movement of a face(cheeks,front etc). His link to the Mando face tutorial is dead! http://www.3dark.com/hashfaqs/minituts/mandoface/index.html Someone knowing something about the Mando face tutorial - there to find it? What is caracteristique for face modeling according to the Mando modeling way? What is concentric modeling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixie Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Mr Seven -Concentric modelling involves building 'rings' or concentric circles around areas such as the mouth and eyes. It allows for better flexibility when animating. I like your Bush charicature his upperlip is spot on, and the eyes, brows etc! Nixie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 Mr Seven -Concentric modelling involves building 'rings' or concentric circles around areas such as the mouth and eyes. It allows for better flexibility when animating. I like your Bush charicature his upperlip is spot on, and the eyes, brows etc! Nixie Mr Nixie - thanks for you appreciating the caricature! Yes - concentric modeling - must be the normal way - but Alain Descrocher speaks about some Mando tutorial giving him so much better faces to animate. Perhaps it is the usual way... But Alain Descrocher is very good at modeling caricatures... expressive ones... Hoping on a tutorial from him... or I have to do something myself... Here is the caricature decaled... Comments?!., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jaqe Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Nice! Very nice! His face skintone seems to be darker that his hands's. When will we get to see him move around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixie Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Hmm, never heard of a Mando method? have you tried googling? Yes any tutorials are always welcome! perhaps tone down his shinyness and then animate him. The comic portrayal of him (bush) in the british animation '2dtv' was very funny and would suit this guy too! see what you can find Nixie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 Thanks Mr Jaqe - I can do some skin coloring of the hands... Mr Nixie - I have googled on the Mando tutorial - did not find it - just dead links! A tutorial on caricature modeling - the fast way - is coming! Here is a link to Bush at 2dtv: http://www.2dtv.co.uk/movie/arnie_and_bush.htm This is Flash - fast animating, but... Why can we not do something like this in A:M? Sure, we can - but we have to learn to make caricatures first - and hopefully sharing them on some new MODELS EXCHANGE forum: http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16847 But you also have to learn to imitate voices - more on that here: http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showt...ndpost&p=117821 A Bush voice archive here: http://www.thebots.net/GWBushSampleArchive.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixie Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 See! 2dtv! I was laughing, thanks for the link! Nixie P.s. once you have a character, make facial expressions and phoenomes; make walk cycles its quick to do. so do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alweb Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Hi Good work Seven ! It's cool to see someone doing more from my modeling. You can do so much funny stuff with a Bush Model ! hehehe I have to said that most of my modeling work (available on the extra CD) are not very "up-to-date" stuff .These models has been done 3-4 years ago ! an eternity in 3D. About the "mando face tutorial" and other reference or tech notes exposed on my website tutorial , it's quite old stuff too , still useful for beginner in some ways ... I think ? So don't worry about any broken link or obsolete instructions, I don't have any plan to update the website at this time . I got lot of new 3D stuff at home and I'll probably make a new one than updating the old... but don't wait for me, I'm very sloooowww ! zzzzzzzzzzzzzz! thank peoples Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 About the "mando face tutorial" and other reference or tech notes exposed on my website tutorial , it's quite old stuff too , still useful for beginner in some ways ... I think ? So don't worry about any broken link or obsolete instructions, I don't have any plan to update the website at this time . I got lot of new 3D stuff at home and I'll probably make a new one than updating the old... but don't wait for me, I'm very sloooowww ! zzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Thanks taking your time answering! Yes, your website is really useful! In the Software tutorials Forum I have made a new tutorial using one of your caricature face meshes. Caricature Modeling, the fast and easy way. You can have a look if you like to it: http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=50&t=16948 This one on your website: http://www.hash.com/users/alweb/tutu.htm Animate with AM...the easy way ... I would like to know more abou itt... I cannot really follow it... I would be glad if you could explain it a little more... or perhaps it is already explained on some topic? Because animating the easy way... that is what is needed... modeling a caricature fast and easy... it is just the start... to animate a Soap Opera... or something more valuable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruscular Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 I think the eyeballs need to be smaller, as bush has that small beady eyes that he is known for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 I think the eyeballs need to be smaller, as bush has that small beady eyes that he is known for. Yes, I believe you are right! If you like to - you can do it yourself - resizing his eyes to the size you find the right one. You can find the model to download here: http://www.hash.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16948 It would be nice seeing you doing some rendering - still image or animation with the model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo3d Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 The "Mando" method is from Armando Afre, a ?former A:M user. I dunno what's up with him, I haven't seen anything from him lately and google turns up zip. Every so often people tackle the build-a-human or build-a-head, and Armando had some experience putting some of his work up for others to see/use loong time ago. If you asked me (I know you didn't) I would jump on Jim Talbots tutorials and check out his spline-age, because it is so dang elegant. Compare for yourself though.. cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 And here is an animation done with the caricature to look and listen to: We_certainly_need_to_send_a_signal.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted August 24, 2005 Author Share Posted August 24, 2005 And here is a screen capture from the animation(see the post before this one): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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