Jump to content
Hash, Inc. Forums

Cupid's Sick Day


Shelton

Recommended Posts

  • *A:M User*

I want to create a set of glasses and the lens part needs to be thick. However, I am having a hard time modeling the lens. Here are the glasses so far. When I extrude the glass portion and apply transparency the splines are visible in the glasses

 

Steve

glasses0.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That's a good looking head, Shelton.

It sounds like you are extruding central CPs, instead of just the edges, which will create internal patches that you do not want.

 

Copy a spline ring from inside the lens frame and extrude to the correct thickness. Then stitch both faces as you want them. Give the lens an Index of Refraction of, hmm..something like 1.3, if my memory serves me correctly. This will cause the lens to refract and magnify like a real lens. Adjust your transparency to suit your needs.

 

I would think about bevelling the arms on those spectacles. The edges are far too sharp to wear next to the face. ;)

 

Hope that helps.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • *A:M User*

Thanks Guys.

 

The arms of the glasses have not been attached yet and I will bevel those guys. Ok on the patch of the lens, it should not be extruded?

 

Rodney I like Zundels stuff (especially the eye brows) but also Jim Talbot? Some of his stuff on the cd is really incredible. I have watch those tutorials dozens of times.

 

Steve

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • *A:M User*

Hi David. Take a look at the previous shots without the top on. I had pulled the shoulders out. I thought I might have good movement with those.

 

Thanks for looking

 

Hi Gene. I wish I could model like your characters. Everytime I start something I tend to try to go to realism (which is bad because I can't get it) rather than a character like yours that has so much personality.

 

Steve

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • *A:M User*

This may sound pretty stupid, but here goes. As I am creating groups for my character I noticed folders being created in the PWS called Groups. When I try to access them there is nothing in them. What are they and where did they come from? Has it been that way all along?

question.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Your character's face has great personality - if you want to get away from realism a bit - you might consider stylizing the body as well - using exaggerated proportions - eg - skinnier legs, hips or more giant muscles, or longer torso or etc...something unreal which communicates the personality, intelligence, in a caricatured way.

 

As for the ghost groups thing - it's a mystery to most of us - we've all? seen something like it it in various forms.

 

Perhaps ? Delete all the phantom group folders, delete chor. Then save your models immediately (separately - not embedded) - close then restart A:M - bring models back in..still there?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • *A:M User*

Thanks Nancy! I have tried a couple of things, like skinnier legs and well I felt like I was copying the Bowler Hat guy from Meet the Robinsons or the Will character from Zundel studios. I tried huge muscles and I saw that it was going to be tough to weight the character. (not very good at rigging). I just might try a longer torso with shorter legs.

 

As far as the ghosting issue. I tried excatly what you said and they came back. And since the time of the Group folders appearing AM has been crashing. I can honestly say AM has not crashed on me in months until the mysterious group folders appeared.

 

Steve

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nice work, Shelton!

Regarding the phantom group folders, have you tried selecting the geometry, making a copy and pasting into a new empty model window, saving and then starting a new project with the new model? I'm not saying that it will definitely work but if you haven't rigged him yet you have nothing to lose. Sometimes, when things get bogged down while modelling in A:M, it helps to start a new, clean project and just bring in what is relevant to that model.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • *A:M User*

Hi Paul!

 

Thanks all!

 

I tried that the first thing. After the last note, I saved the model, shutdown AM, loaded the model and no Groups. However, I loaded a second model into the project and groups appeared again.

 

And it may have been this way as I am not complaining, but all my grouping folders disappeared when I reloaded the model. this may have been this way all along.

 

Right now during this modeling stage I am not too worried but I want to start on rigging (hardest thing for me) and want to make sure something is not going to creep in.

 

Steve

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Well, I removed all the texturing and shaders on the project saved the files and reloaded and the mysterious folders have disappeared.

 

Weird. I'm wondering did you bring this in from another project? dif version of A:M? Have multiple windows (chor, action) open when modeling?

 

Gerry - phantom folders haven't happened to everyone - but it pops/popped up in some form or another on TWO, SO on occasion.

 

Shelton - Glasses on character look good, he looks like a more thoughtful character - the whole personality changed from how he looked before - I thought he was going to be a schmarmy type guy - now he looks more like a genuine nice mild mannered guy (clark kentish)

 

The image with glasses looks good, but it looks very dark to me (I thought? my monitor was calibrated)...how are you rendering this?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • *A:M User*

It is dark. I have a new monitor, actually a Sony Bravia XBr6 32". The settings on it were set to bright so I kept making things darker. I have reset it and hopefully some of the newer pics will not be so dark.

 

One thing I can say is that there were several models open while I was modeling him. Other than that I have done everything in 15e

 

The character will have different uses. One will be a spokes person for a website. So I am glad you said he has mild look as that is what I was aiming for!!

 

I started drawing out some ideas to modify his body. Hope to have that done tomorrow.

 

Thanks for the comments.

 

Steve :)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...
  • *A:M User*

Decided to rework the chin and cheek area along with the jowl area. Just need to clean up and remove some unneeded splines. I will have the ears on tonight and will work on the hair setup and then to the body. Here are the front and side shots before the ears

 

Steve

3_28new0.jpg

3_28newside0.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Got the neck in place and started on the glasses and ears tonight. Corrected all the bias tonight.

 

Here is a wire frame

 

Steve

Nice model

Can I see a few different views of the wireframe for the first face in this post? I am struggling with making faces right now (I dont know why) and maybe a new way of setting up the splines would help.

Thanks

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you

I just want to make sure i am seeing this right. Is the area where I have the red arrow pointing a 3 point patch with a hook? Are the 5 point patches I have outlined in blue connected directly to the outer nostril or are there patches where I have placed the yellow outline. If there arent patches behind the yellow line did u tweak ank bias handles? It seems like there would be creases the way you did this but the model is smooth. I like this patch setup cuz it will make modeling a character i am struggling with a lot easier to make.

Again thanks.

patch.JPG

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • *A:M User*

Yes the red arrow is pointing to a three point patch. There is a spline that goes behind/in front of the 5 point and there is a 4 patch hidden behind the nostril. I learned this from a tutorial from Jim Talbot I think.

 

The Clothes were put on in both action and model. When I finish the weighting of this character I will dive more into the cloth simulation. I will keep you posted. I have learned more from Vern and his rig with the stage.

 

Steve

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • *A:M User*

I got the ears in and now clean up on the face and ready for the body. I am going dress him business causal. May have some questions on textures. I still can not decal an object correctly without the decal being corrupted.

 

Steve

newguy0.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...